What amazes me in this very long thread is that it is very facilities oriented. There
has been little reference to the need for EDUCATION for ALL vehicle drivers. Kudos to
those that did. I wish threads on education were as long.
Mom on a Bike
Graydon Patterson wrote:
> > From: Avery Burdett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> > Another point never mentioned is that bike lanes serve one destination
> > only at intersections. Strange as it may seem, but cyclist traffic is
> > like other traffic, it travels in more than one direction at
> > intersections.
>
> What specifically makes a bike lane different than a regular vehicular
> travel lane?
> -A 'regular' curb lane varies in width, anywhere from 2.5 to 5 or more
> metres in width, often within its length
> -The lane continues straight through at all intersections, sometimes it
> bends left or right to open up another lane.
> -The lane leads left turning cars right up to the intersection, where they
> might be tempted to turn left from that lane
> -Motorists must be educated to know they should be changing lanes sometime
> prior to the intersection to make a left turn
> -Regular curb lanes have numerous laneways and driveways emptying out into
> it.
> -The edges of these regular lanes accumulate lots of dirt and debris
> -The iron works near the curbs also tend to break up into pot holes.
>
> Now, lets imagine the regular lane shrinking to 1.5 meters...
>
> What is the difference?!?!?
>
> > The never ending discussion on the value of having cyclists
> > separated by paint
> > striping detracts from the real cycling safety issue of how
> > cyclists can
> > get themselves through intersections without getting into
> > trouble.
>
> And a regular curb lane is not separated by paint from other lanes?!?!?
>
> > Bike
> > lane and shoulder paint striping is a red herring. The "hit
> > from behind"
> > collision represents a very small number of cycle accidents, but an
> > inordinately large part of cyclist concerns. Meanwhile real risks at
> > intersections are rarely mentioned. (Most of these are
> > cycling skill related
> > and cyclists don't like to admit they are at fault.)
>
> Yes, this is the real danger - most of the time, what will hit you is in
> front of you..
>
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