So am I REALLY the only one in this club who thinks that the html
version of the calendar is awful? Just try to find the first WTT event
in it , or the dates of the North Carolina Tour, etc.... Don't be shy -
Rod wants your comments (and there are other calendar options).

--- and the recipe question ---

At some incredibly late hour -
Take two 113 g containers of yogurt, 100g of cheese, 250g of rice
pudding, three oranges.
Remove all lids, skins and plastic wrappings.
Sit down and eat while you've got the chance!
The digestive system does the rest of the processing...
(At least my last meal of the day never gets disturbed by telephone
solicitors...)

--- and the ignorable techy trash ---

Looked like DreamWeaver and had references to Dreamweaver styles. I
guess it's really MacroMedia. I see copyright notices for John Ahlquist,
you are using his fw_menu.js JavaScript, and I see all kinds of "MM_"
prefixes in the Javascript code - It sure doesn't look like it was
manually generated by a human...

Also you said that SSI's were used so that the same JavaScript stuff
which I was seeing in every file wasn't really there. Wouldn't it be a
lot less awkward (in terms of being able to actually test the web pages
before sticking them on the webserver!) to just use "src=" specs in the
script tags to load the appropriate JavaScript??? This is how you're
accessing Ahlquist's stuff.

As a mathematician, I tend to prefer objective analyses based on
measureables rather than subjective discussion. In a technical
discussion, the discussion is usually to
suggest/contribute/agree-upon/analyze the measurables. For web sites
some of the well-known/agreed-upon measurables are signal to noise
ratios, hit counts, number of mouse clicks (or menu flyouts - they
actually hurt my wrist more than button clicks) needed  to get to the
desired location, weighted averages of path lengths, minimum path
lengths between closely related pages, number of failures in accessing
pages (either link or format related), etc. If two solutions are
relatively close in these measures, I don't care in the least which is
used. Variety is the spice of life, and I certainly embody that motto -
but not without thought...

Celia

Rod Plunkett wrote:

> - -- The software used for the website is not Dreamweaver. I don't
> recall what it is called. All the javascript was generated the old
> fashioned way (hard coded), not with any "wizards".
>
>
> - -- Frames vs Javascript. This is a subjective debate, like arguing
> over whether Microsoft Word is better than Corel Wordperfect, or
> Netscape is better than MSIE. How about Cannondale over Trek?
> Everyone has an opinion and I doubt such a debate is a critical issue
> to the majority of a cycling newsgroup.
> - -- "those despised OutLook calendar pages" hmmm....other than your
> feedback, no one is sharing their opinions with me, even after I
> asked for comments. BTW, what recipe calls for 16 lbs of oranges, 2 kg
> of cheese, 3 kg of
> yogurt, and 4 kg of rice pudding? - - Rod Plunkett
> Newsletter Editor

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