A number of  people have asked me, so, for the record:

1. Yes, I did offer to continue providing the same same-day time trial results
service which I have enthusiastically given for most of the past 5 years (last year
was a little slower since I was working out of the country and hence not at the
TT's to pick up the results). The offer still stands.

2. Also, I think that it's great that OutLook makes it easy to maintain the
calendar and produce what is needed for the  newsletter, and hence I offered (way
back in December/January) to fix/replace the busted web calendar pages which it
produces as well as to generate separate schedules for each type of event.
Certainly the proto-type solutions which I gave qualify as accommodating the
newsletter, the website, and the club members. The offer still stands.

I tend to be strongly optimistic by nature, but by now I've fallen down to steps 2
and 3 of that Serenity Prayer.

Celia

Rod Plunkett wrote:

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> A word of caution about the Yahoo! Calendar. The problem is some of
> the fields do not map properly with Outlook - eg - the location for
> example. Like it or not, I have to use Outlook to maintain the
> calendar because it also has to go into the Newsletter. The Yahoo!
> one cannot be output in a satisfactory format suitable for the
> Newsletter. The bottom line is I only have time to maintain one
> calendar. I've been playing with it but haven't found a fix yet.
> There is never a perfect solution but at least you can see all the
> events in a given day. The technology just isn't there yet.
>
> I am not going to remove the current calendar because some users want
> the PDF and PST versions. I like to be accommodating but I have been
> pushed as far as I can go. I am NOT prepared to sacrifice the
> Newsletter for the sake of the website no matter how much whining
> there is. The website is not the exclusive means for the Club to
> communicate with the membership. I have been forced to make trade
> offs which, as we now know, were unacceptable to some. In fact, all
> this endless discussion from a very small minority regarding the
> calendar has already hurt the April Newsletter as I have to spent
> time typing emails instead of working on the Newsletter. I think this
> is a disservice to the rest of the membership. I will only entertain
> further suggestions that accommodate BOTH the Newsletter AND the
> Website. I will NOT sacrifice one for the other. If I sound annoyed,
> I AM!
>
> - -Rod Plunkett
> Newsletter Editor
>
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> From: "Greg Franks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Rod Plunkett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [obc] Yahoooooo!
>
> > >>>>> "Celia" == Celia McInnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >     Celia> Thanks, Rod. for the yahoo calendar. It works. Now if I
> > can
> >     Celia> twist you arm just a littttle bit more - how about
> >     Celia> replacing the broken OutLook calendar with the properly
> >     Celia> functioning Yahoo one?
> >
> > Yes -- I have to agree -- the Yahoo one is more useable from a web
> > browser (it doesn't look as nice though).  The frames are cool
> > though.  With yahoo:
> > a) all events are listed for a given day (which is far more useful
> >    that the "more-see details" doo-dad).
> > b) a search box.
> >
> > I wanted to find the Tour de Nortel.  It was hard to find on the
> > OBC WWW page calendar (I guessed that it was in may an I spotted
> > Nortel burried in the right hand frame).  Yahoo is out-of-sync
> > because it's on May 5.
> >
> > -----
> > Now all you have to do is configure the yahoo calendar to send
> > "reminders" to the obc mailing list so that Rosmarie doesn't have
> > to. :-) e.g.: Socials, a day before, Sunday rides two days before,
> > etc.
> >
> > Subscribing the calendar may be tricky.  One might have to coerce
> > it.
>

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