Kalo import ada perasaan WAH makenya, apalagi kalo dilihat orang juga lebih PD, gaya hidup.
Sama saja diluaran pada pake blekiberi, saya msh pake SAMSUNG R220 Hahahah Sama juga dgn beli saham model CNKO, KARK di hina, kalo beli AALI ASII lebih wah heheheh On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM, JsxTrader <jsxtra...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Bener bosss..., liat aja saham kalo lagi murah kagak ada yg mau beli, > giliran mahal dikejar-kejar...., hahaha > > Liat juga di kota, yg "import" lebih mahal, laku lagi.., padahal bule aje > nyarinya yg local..., hahaha > > > -----Original Message----- > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto: > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>] > On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker > Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 16:53 > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation > > Di Indonesia sering terjadi anomali... untuk barang dengan fungsi yang > sama (spt HP), orang lebih milih hp yang lebih mahal, katakanlah > branded, dibanding hp china. Kita masih menganut paham "ada harga, ada > rupa", alias harga menentukan kualitas (ada benernya juga sih) > > Bbrp bulan lalu, ada sale sendal CROC yang mahal itu, dan antriannya > naujubilah penuh sesek, yang kalo dilihat sebenernya engga worth it > punya sendal teplek seharga 300rb, sementara di carefour sendal serupa > bisa diperoleh dgn harga 25rb. > > Hal serupa juga terjadi pada booming blackberry, padahal cuma buat > chatting gak jelas, sama upload facebook (yang juga engga jelas). > Hebat yah kita, di sektor riil engga ada tuh krisis. Krisis cuma ada > di bursa saham sama di OB doang. hehehe.. > > Bener kata EL, deflasi menguntungkan konsumen spt kita, wong harga > turun tapi gaji sama bonus tetep, malah naek... heheh > > Tapi menjelang bulan puasa+lebaran, belum pernah tuh harga turun, > malah pada naik nih.. apalagi minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak > goreng.. minyak goreng.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. mobil.. > mobil.. mobil.. mobil... > > Regards, > DE > > 2009/8/21 Bagus Putra Perdana > <disclosure....@gmail.com<disclosure.inc%40gmail.com> > >: > > > > > > saya kurang ngerti Makro sih. tapi yg jelas kalo ga salah ambil > kesimpulan. > > Kondisinya kalo kaya sekarang kan pemulihan Ekonomi Amerika belun > keliatan > > nyata. sementara upaya banjirin likuiditas dari mereka juga udah optimum > > (lebih dari ini level defisit mereka udah terlalu parah). yang berarti > peran > > "konsumsi dunia" sekarang udah susah tetep dipegang Amerika lagi., nah > siapa > > yg mo mikul beban ambil alih "konsumsi dunia" supaya pemulihan ekonomi > dunia > > bisa berlangsung tidak terlalu lama. cina sendiri keliatannya rada > hesitant > > juga jadi 1 1nya pengambil alih konsumsi dunia sekarang ini. yg jadi > masalah > > adalah kalo pemulihan ekonomi baru terjadi rada lama dari sekarang (kurva > > pemulihannya akan berbentuk L bukan V) maka penyakit2 yg sekarang udah > agak > > tertahan semacem klaim CDS, tagihan seret, pinjeman bermasalah bisa > muncul > > lagi ke permukaan dan bikin semuanya jadi kurang cihuy lah buat pasar > > keuangan. good thing nya sih US paling tidak sampe semester depan masih > > harus terus jaga suku bunganya di level rendah. ini akan menguntungkan > buat > > negara2 yg secara natural tidak terlalu bergantung pada ekspor untuk > > menggerakkan ekonominya (Indonesia salah satunya) > > > > BTW bicara sedikit tentang deflasi china yg diekspor ke seluruh dunia. > asli > > saya kaget kemaren liat HP China ternyata murah2 amat ya dengan fitur2 yg > > lumayan. itu costnya berapa bisa ampe lepas barang di harga segitu.. > > gile.... > > > > On 8/21/09, Ferry <ferry.wachj...@gmail.com <ferry.wachjudi%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Kang Ocoy, > >> > >> > >> > >> Jadi hanya itu dampaknya? > >> > >> > >> > >> Rgds, > >> > >> > >> > >> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> > >> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>] > On Behalf Of Bagus Putra Perdana > >> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:48 PM > >> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> hehe. China CPI turun terus.. diEksporlah Deflasinya kesini.. barang yg > >> udah "murah" dilempar lebih murah lagi. since Indonesia Rakyatnya pada > doyan > >> belanja.. kebetulan domestic liquiditynya juga lumayan..disikatlah itu > >> barang2 turunan deflasi. so every Indonesian will lend their shoulders > >> helping distant brother china taking care of world's economic recovery > ya. > >> jadi? marilah kita belanja gitu maksudnya?! > >> > >> > >> > >> No Specific Stocks Recommendation? please share a bit here kind lady... > >> Afterall we here Indonesian should be shopping rite?! > >> > >> > >> > >> On 8/21/09, Elaine Sui <elainesu...@gmail.com <elainesui83%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be > careful. > >> I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: > >> > >> deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight > >> credit. > >> unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. > >> debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the > >> destruction of capitalism. > >> > >> H1N1: deadly decoy. > >> US - China trade war: it is happening. > >> > >> But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also > >> have these: > >> > >> Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, > public > >> transportation > >> Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all > >> shopping freaks! lolz > >> > >> I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better > >> than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like > the > >> soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will > >> affect the financial market. Give me some prediction.. > >> > >> Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the > case. > >> The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple > >> effect will spread throughout the world. > >> > >> New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with > >> the market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the > officials > >> show recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good > news' > >> are engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt > >> restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. > At > >> least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia. > >> > >> So I will say: Buy on US weakness. > >> > >> Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific > >> stocks at this time. > >> > >> Elaine > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin > >> <milis...@live.com<milis222%40live.com>> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation > >> > >> CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH > >> > >> Reuters > >> > >> | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET > >> > >> China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third > >> quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9 > >> percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday. > >> > >> The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world > >> markets that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending > and > >> bank lending peters out. > >> > >> The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would > >> "normalize" in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in > lending > >> would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new > crop > >> of non-performing loans. > >> > >> New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in > August > >> after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China > Securities > >> Journal reported. > >> > >> In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to > >> its "proactive" fiscal policy and "appropriately loose" monetary stance > in > >> the second half of the year. > >> > >> "China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild > >> deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary > >> policy," the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning > agency, > >> said. > >> > >> It forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent > >> this quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would > decline > >> 7.9 percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008. > >> > >> The SIC said the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing > >> below potential, mainly due to weak exports. > >> > >> Exports would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year > >> earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast. > >> > >> Capital spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest > >> economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent > in > >> the third quarter, it said. > >> > >> Strong investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including > >> over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as > sectors > >> with serious over-capacity. > >> > >> "It is extremely bad for China's future industrial restructuring and > >> upgrading," the SIC said. > >> > >> It said property investment could potentially replace government > spending > >> as the next key driver of growth. > >> > >> Copyright 2009 Reuters. Click for restrictions. > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks & emoticons. > >> Click here > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to > the > >> complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, > >> everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know > that > >> we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned > only > >> to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected.......The test of > all > >> knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific > “truth”. > >> - Richard Feynman > > > > > > -- > > Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to > the > > complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, > > everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know > that > > we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned > only > > to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected.......The test of > all > > knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific > “truth”. > > - Richard Feynman > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > + + > + + + + + > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. > + + + + + > + +Yahoo! Groups Links > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 > 18:06:00 > > >
