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--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" <elainesu...@...> wrote: > > *Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can take > all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. [?] > > * > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM, <kyce...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much > > from you all. Nice too meet you all. > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® > > ------------------------------ > > *From: * "Aria Bela Nusa" <ariab...@...> > > *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 +0700 > > *To: *<obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> > > *Subject: *RE: [ob] Dow 10,000... > > > > > > > > YUP lihat *bottom-line*-nya `aja, yaitu *earnings seasons* dr > > fundamental perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya hiperinflasi di sini bisa `aja > > berarti USD masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya dstnya > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > > obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Franky chandra > > *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM > > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [ob] Dow 10,000... > > > > Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu > > hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap > > fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the > > time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed > > usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to > > control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so > > the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot > > of factors in that case. Thanx > > > > Powered by My-BoLoT-berry® !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!! > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From: *inpestorpembela...@... > > > > *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 +0000 > > > > *To: *<obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> > > > > *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000... > > > > > > > > Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek > > tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat > > pasar modal. > > > > Salam > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From: *"tjetjun" <asias...@...> > > > > *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 -0000 > > > > *To: *<obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> > > > > *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau terjadi > > hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah > > kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik > > akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah. > > menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data > > bagaimana kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu > > ? biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang > > luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik. > > > > thks dan salam atas bantuannya > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, > > inpestorpembelajar@ wrote: > > > > > > Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak > > salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 10000 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar > > kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw) > > > Just be prepare for the worst. > > > > > > Disclaimer on > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "Aria Bela Nusa" <ariabela@> > > > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 > > > To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>> > > > Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000... > > > > > > > > > Dow 10,000 > > > > > > > > > By Colin Twiggs > > > October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) > > > > > > These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and > > should > > > not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and > > > conditions can be found at Terms of > > > <http://www.incrediblecharts.com/legal_vizhon/terms_of_use.htm> Use. > > > > > > We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. > > > The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 10000, while the FTSE > > > 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout > > would > > > confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a > > > secondary correction. > > > > > > In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts > > From > > > <http://www.frontlinethoughts.com/article.asp?id=mwo100909> The > > Frontline > > > highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at > > the > > > University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In > > his > > > book Monetary < > > http://astore.amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785> > > > Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships, > > > Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the > > last > > > 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits > > through > > > money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for > > hyper-inflation > > > occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. > > > > > > US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and > > 2010, a > > > clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation > > > occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets > > such > > > as stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold > > > indicates that inflationary fears are growing. > > > > > > > > > Commodities > > > > > > > > > Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk > > > commodity shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices > > and > > > resources stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would > > signal > > > the start of a primary advance. > > > > > > Baltic Dry Index > > > > > > The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to > > > test 270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal > > below > > > 247 is now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend. > > > > > > CRB Commodities Index > > > > > > * Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300 > > > > > > > > > USA > > > > > > > > > Dow Jones Industrial Average > > > > > > > > > The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 10000. Reversal > > below > > > 9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 10000 > > would > > > signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, > > still > > > shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a > > > correction. In the long term, breakout above 10000 would offer a target > > of > > > 12000*; failure of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal > > to > > > a primary down-trend. > > > > > > Dow Jones Industrial Average > > > > > > * Target calculation: 10000 + ( 10000 - 8000 ) = 12000 > > > > > > > > > >
