I am one of those others James. The police overstep their mark all too
often. The constitution protects against arbitrary search. The police
know this and if you consent to be searched they can. If you do not
consent they cannot. At the very least they need some probable cause.
I have had a twenty minute standoff with 2 police vehicles and 4
police officers where they wanted to search me for no reason other
than I walked up to their van and said hello. One of them Ontong new
exactly who I was, yet still stood by and watched while the other one
carried on trying to intimidate me. I made mention of this to then CPF
chair Teun Baartman (I was also serving on the CPF at the time) and he
ignored the matter completely and I left it at that for reasons you
can deduce for yourself.

Wait till this happens to you and see how you feel. Its a slippery slope.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

He was right in 1759 and he is right now.

Trev

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