On the other hand, treating all car guards as de facto criminals is not right. I know one car guard who was instrumental in helping out in various difficult situations - without payment - and yet was treated as a suspect by community and police during those times.
While car guards are often a little too boisterous for my personal liking, and I'm sure occasionally participate in crime, I'm happy to have one on my street and feel safer for him being there. He is foreign, earns very little, and has got into trouble because he hasn't bribed police when they expected it. I want less of a "solution to the car guard problem" and more of a "what are some creative ways the Obs community can partner with car guards?" keeping some of the concerns raised in mind. Regards Roger On 26 January 2015 at 13:36, Brian Amery Coo <[email protected]> wrote: > This is just in from Orbis > > Dear Brian > > Our staff can only ask the car guards to move out of the area. If these > car guards refuse to move, we are not allowed to remove them with force. > Our staff will then forward a complaint to the local SAPS. Any public > member or security member who is not an peace officer cannot arrest or move > an illegal car guard against his/her will. > > Our staff then monitor the area and wait on back up from SAPS.When SAPS > arrive on the scene, they normally only warn the car guards. > > It is the responsibility of the SAPS to effect an arrest . > > Kind Regards > Charl Brooks > > I have asked Orbis to report all such incidents to SAPS and to record the > response, which I am advised is often non-existent. > It would be helpful if we had an Obs sub-sector CPF where these issues > could be raised. > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Brian Amery Coo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We have requested the current policy and by laws from Orbis. We will >> comment when we get the response >> >> Kind regards >> >> Brian Amery >> Chief Operating Officer >> Observatory Improvement District OBSID) >> >> Tel. 021 4487090 >> Fax :0866394005 >> Cell: 0825749830 >> >> Address: 41 Station Road,Observatory,Cape Town ,7925 >> > > > > -- > > Kind regards > > Brian Amery > Chief Operating Officer > Observatory Improvement District OBSID) > > Tel. 021 4487090 > Fax :0866394005 > Cell: 0825749830 > > Address: 41 Station Road,Observatory,Cape Town ,7925 > > -- > OPS [Obsid Public Safety] - 24/7 control room > ---------------------------------------------- > 021-447-1066 072-063-1653 > > For all emergencies please dial 10111 > > ---------------------------------------------- > ONW: 082 081 0142, ONW email: [email protected] > WEB: www.obswatch.org.za > ---------------------------------------------- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > The Observatory Neighbourhood watch group. To post to this group, send > email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send > email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this > group at https://groups.google.com/d/forum/obsnw?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- OPS [Obsid Public Safety] - 24/7 control room ---------------------------------------------- 021-447-1066 072-063-1653 For all emergencies please dial 10111 ---------------------------------------------- ONW: 082 081 0142, ONW email: [email protected] WEB: www.obswatch.org.za ---------------------------------------------- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Observatory Neighbourhood watch group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at https://groups.google.com/d/forum/obsnw?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
