Jacques,
Can you post all of this on that JIRA issue you created for VAT?
I'll try to help out when I have a chance.
Also same regarding the invoice header thing--I'll take a look at it
later. Can you confirm that Eriks is right--is a tax authority Id in
the bill-to geo really required in EU? (Funny, it's the exact
opposite of the US...)
On Oct 10, 2006, at 10:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hi all,
I believe something is always missing in OFBiz. Ability for users
to enter prices with taxes (gross pricing). Not only ability to
show prices with taxes as it is now (in eCommerce for instance) .
This message is mostly intended to summarise situation and
hopefully find a reasonable solution (perhaps but I hope not, only
for my future usage). Sorry for the long post.
Here is a David's quote from a thread initiated by Manuel Meyer :
http://www.nabble.com/-OFBiz--Users---VAT-and-rounding-tf156901.html
<<Perhaps the biggest problem with having prices that include tax is
that then you either have to have all sorts of prices for different
tax authorities, or, well, or I don't know. This wouldn't be a
problem if are only selling from one place, ie only have one tax
"nexus", but designing for that is something I'm trying to avoid...>>
At beginning a very simple way for POS (and even some eCommerce
sites) should be sufficient (one "nexus" option). I have no time
yet but I wonder if before going for others POS tasks this one
should not be fulfilled. I had a discussion with Ray Barlow about
that point and for him (and others people I guess) it's really a
problem for some prospective clients. Specially if they want to use
OFBiz accounting.
This Si's quote is also interesting ("keep it simple" way, even if
I'm not sure it's not deprecated now by the Tax Autorithies mechanism)
<<It seems, though, that longer term we'll need to be able to
support both
the US (tax added on top of price) and European (flat price
including a
tax) formats. It seems that it might not be so hard if we do it
this way:
1. Create a new tax type
2. Additional code which calculates that tax for that type, including
correct rounding formulae
3. An added field for OrderAdjustment which denotes whether it should
be added back to the order item's amounts (in the case of US sales
taxes) or is there just for informational purposes (in the case of
European/VAT), since the flat price includes the tax
4. GL posting should work fine once the correct amounts in
OrderAdjustment or at most require a small change.
I think it might be nice to break the sales tax calculation code
into a
master which calls several different routines or services depending on
the tax type, so we can keep the implementation separate or call an
outside service if it's available.>>
But this David's response from previous comment seems to have
stopped this thread :
http://www.nabble.com/-OFBiz--Users---VAT-and-rounding-
tf156901.html#a999193
Now, David do you think that it's possible to do something for
"gross pricing" with the current tax model and calculation ?
Here are also some newer interesting threads
http://www.nabble.com/GST-VAT-status-tf2056121.html
http://www.nabble.com/Users---UK-VAT-p4640028.html
http://www.nabble.com/Users---tax-functionality-tf1428622.html
http://www.nabble.com/GST-VAT-on-purchases-tf2061686.html
(discouraged by David)
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Dev---Adding-the-taxAuthorityRateSeqId-
field-to%09theOrderAdjustment-entity-tf1374986.html
http://www.nabble.com/Dev---Mods-to-the-TaxAuth-services-to-display-
party%27s-taxes-in-prices-instead-of-product-store%27s-one-
tf1498508.html
And older threads about Tax Autorithies implementation
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Users----OFBiz--Dev---VAT-in-POS-
tf825562.html (this has to be generalised)
http://www.nabble.com/-OFBiz--Dev---RE%3A-VAT-price-guidance-
tf342240.html
A new related Jira issue : http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/
OFBIZ-366
Other related stuffes in Jira
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-113
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-147 (I will try to solve
this today)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-164
Jacques
PS : There are also valuable informations in old Wiki : search
"VAT" (notably http://ofbizwiki.go-integral.com/Wiki.jsp?
page=TaxAuthorityDataModel)
Best Regards,
Si
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