Hi there, If anyone with experience with each of the above would care to comment on whether one has notable advantages over the other, I'd appreciate it -- offlist is fine. With Saturn arriving in our locale (500kpbs), suddenly Telecom gets its act together and offers ADSL (allegedly 5Mbs to our development office). Surprise, surprise.... Basically, I'm wondering if the extra bandwidth is real, especially given that most of our Internet use is to overseas sites... Also whether there are any known hidden costs or gotchas with either option, such as having the right ADSL modem. Many TIAs. cheers, peter ============================================ Peter Hyde, WebCentre Ltd & SPIS Ltd, Christchurch, New Zealand * Web automation for online periodicals: http://TurboPress.com * TurboNote+: http://TurboPress.com/tbnote.htm -- easy, small, handy onscreen sticky notes --------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand Delphi Users group - Offtopic List - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.delphi.org.nz