There is also a difference between being asked to write something and being 
asked if you CAN write something.
I had a similar issue a number of years back where I was ask if I could 
write some software....the "can" was in the context of "can it be done".
for me it was a case of "yes I can do it" and I went ahead writing the 
software, and they sold it, and I got royalties...of a sort... :-)
The people involveds business partnership broke up and the one remaining 
part I delt with believed he owned it, and it took a meeting with a lawyer 
to point out that because they asked me to see if it could be done, and the 
fact they had paid my royalties, clearly meant "I" owned it........and he 
had to buy it off me...hehehehe.
But in your case it sounds like they asked you to write it, so yes, they 
prob. own it, but as you pointed out, they have not paid anything, so you as 
a creditor being owed $$ could retain ownership until the invoice is paid.
I think the part of the law you quoted is also not helpful, It kind of 
implies that if they say "oh year...we will pay you" and they never do, then 
they still own it....so if it was me I would ask a lawyer for a firm 
opinion, just so you know where you are.

Jeremy



-----Original Message-----

From: "Leigh Wanstead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Offtopic List" 
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:21:08 +1200

Subject: RE: [DUG-Offtopic] Legal problem





Hi 
Dave,



I 
think that you need to get a written contract.



Regards

Leigh

www.smootharm.com [http://www.smootharm.com/]



-----Original Message-----
From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf OfDave 
  O'Brien
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 2:44 PM
To: NZ 
  Borland Developers Group - Offtopic List
Subject: [DUG-Offtopic] 
  Legal problem
  
I 
    was asked a while ago to create some software for a business. The design 
has 
    been ongoing for quite a while (the client has been adding bits monthly) 
and 
    is nearing completion.
    

    
The 
    problem I find now is that the business is having problems. Many 
hundreds of 
    hours work has not been paid for and a verbal agreement was made to give 
me 
    a percentage of their returns.
    

    
It 
    now appears that that deal will not go ahead. The problem is the client 
    believes they own the software.
    
>From 
    an email:
    

    Under 
      New Zealand Copyright Act Intellectual property in software is owned 
by 
      the person who commissions and pays or agrees to pay for the making of 
a 
      computer programme.
    

    
I 
    am of the opinion that “Goods remain the property of me until paid for 
in 
    full” and my invoices state this clearly.
    

    
Before 
    I fork out for a lawyer, does anyone have any comments on this 
    case?
    

    
Cheers,
    
Dave 
    O’Brien.
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