On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Mark J. Nelson <Mark.J.Nelson at sun.com> wrote: > > > Garrett D'Amore wrote: > >> FWIW, I believe that e-mail explaining the meeting, and why folks needed > >> to attend, was sent to all of the core contributors. I do believe that > >> failure to participate is mostly due to apathy on the part of said > >> CC's. (No, I've not taken a poll -- but if I could *poll* those folks > >> who didn't participate, then I'd probably be able to get them to > >> participate!) > > > Bonnie Corwin wrote: > > What's the harm in trying a very specific email asking people for > > specific action by a certain day/time? If nothing happens, then perhaps > > we can assume apathy. At the moment, I'm not ready to concede that that > > is the whole problem. > > > I would go further than that. The lack of agenda, and of any useful, > structured, conversation in #opensolaris-meeting, has put me off. The idea > that my signing in and identifying myself somehow lends legitimacy or > quorum bothers me. Because I have not participated. > > I'm happy to participate. I'll do background reading. I'll offer > opinions, if and when appropriate. I'll attend a meeting. But calling an > IRC channel "#opensolaris-meeting" does not qualify it as such. > > If Plocher is right, and quorum is badly defined, then we need to fix the > definition of quorum. > > If Garrett is right, and quorum is appropriately defined, but CC grants > have run amok, then we need to fix the grant situation. > > In either case, we need to identify and address the real problem. > > Encouraging members of the community to jump through this hoop is silly, > obfuscates the real problem, and takes resources that could be better > applied towards finding a real solution.
The problem is that you can't solve our current issue without first meeting the requirements. We can't amend the constitution without reaching quorum, etc. The best option at this point seems to be not meeting quorum, thereby allowing the constitution to be flushed and starting over. That would be easier in my view than trying to patch up the current one. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben
