To follow up on today's call ... I'm not sure things are getting simpler. We seem to go back and forth between simple and complex in my mind. That could just be my poor understanding, of course. :) If I'm missing the simplicity, forgive me.
Below is a suggestion I think is consistent with Simon's proposal. It can be argued in the committee, but my intent is to give Alan a simple base from which to continue his work. Let's remove the term "Community Group" and simply replace it with "Group" and have three top levels organizing the entire OpenSolaris Community: (1) Communities, (2) Projects, (3) User Groups. So, "Group" also replaces Simon's "Thing" and Alan's "Collective" and other such terms we've been discussing. Three big buckets with big hairy icons on the site: * Communities: Social groups gathered around an issue or technology. * Projects: Development groups gathered around repositories and integration tools. * User Groups: Groups of users gathered around a geography. No need for SIGs since they are really just Communities. No need for Consolidations since that's a Sun term, and we should just keep making them Projects as they open (just ON at this point?) to be consistent with what's already out there. All three levels are structurally equal to each other and can associate with each other. In fact, it would probably be in their interest to associate with each other, but they don't have to. They have web relationships (Simon's mesh), not hierarchical relationships, but they can certainly choose a hierarchical relationship if they want. The more they self organize and grow their membership and argue for consensus the more influence they'll potentially have in the community. Or they can just pass on that and get work done and participate in governance to a minimum degree as required to get access to resources, grow contributor roles, etc. We can also trim the levels of membership to three: (1) Participant, (2) Contributor, (3) Member. * Participant: You have registered on the site. * Contributor: You contribute to a Group and have been recognized by that Group. * Member: You have earned the right to vote in community-wide elections. In terms of voting, the OGB concerns itself with the Members and community-wide elections only. The OGB can suggest voting mechanisms for the Groups, but those management decisions are up to the Groups -- as long as they don't break the big rules the OGB specifies. Same with access to resources. That's a Group decision, not an OGB decision. Regarding the Membership Committee: I don't think it should be made up of people from all the Groups because there will be too many groups and the committee will be too big. All I'm specifying above is three categories in which there will be about 280 or so Groups. I think in the call today Simon or John suggested that we reduce the current Community Group list down to 8-15 or so. In that case, sure, having a representative from each Community Group would be a reasonable approach. However, that suggests that the OGB is going to actively reorg the community, and I'm suggesting that we stand little change of doing that at this point. So, we should let the community organize itself (or leave the current structure in place). Also, I can see some big arguments coming from reducing the CG list from 45 to 8-15. I don't think it's necessary. So, if we have a small number of categories but a large number of Groups, the OGB will have to simply appoint the Membership Committee, and the specification it produces can be discussed and voted on by the community. In that case, the Membership Committee can be small. Just an idea. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/attachments/20080708/5f833de5/attachment.html>