On Feb 13, 2008 3:59 PM, Shawn Walker <swalker at opensolaris.org> wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2008 5:24 PM, Ignacio Marambio Cat?n <darkjoker at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > I found it a very disheartening response from Sun and a total > > > > failure to listen & work with the community. > > > > > > Ditto, though personally I find the lack of response to that response > > > more disheartening. The community does not exist as a community. > > > > > That's exactly what i think, i also wonder what took them so long if > > they were going to give an answer like this > > sun basically said that they owned the trademark and could do whatever > > they wanted with it. It's legally accurate I think but it was a huge > > blow to the open part of opensolaris and to the community. > > I think people aren't being fair here. Sun has made it very clear from > day one that there were many restrictions surrounding the use the > trademark. People had no problem with that. > > The trademark is one of the most valuable things Sun owns, and quite > frankly, their *right* and ability to use it is small recompense for > the millions they've spent supporting this community. > > Attempting to deny Sun their rightful use of that trademark is morally > wrong to me. It reeks of, "the world owes me something." > > To me, it it is morally reprehensible to attempt to simultaneously > complain about Sun's commercial usage of their own property and at the > same time hold out a hand begging for a handout; which is essentially > what some are doing.
Shawn. Nobody's arguing that there oughtn't be restrictions on the use of the trademark. That was never the problem. The problem is that Sun gave the impression from the inception of the project that the OpenSolaris trademark stood for one thing (ie: O/N et al ) , that it wouldn't be favourably granted to one distro at the expense of others, and that they'd work with the community to find fair guidelines if the policy weren't working for whatever reason. As it turns out, this is evidently not the case, and it's got some community members (myself included) furious not at the fact that SMI is exercising her legal right, but of the deception thus far. If Sun had stated from the beginning something to the effect of "OpenSolaris is our trademark, you have no say in what we do with it, and we'll arbitrarily change the definition as it suits our marketing" there would be less of an uproar ( and less users, presumably ). -- PGP Public Key 0x437AF1A1 Available on hkp://pgp.mit.edu
