On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:21 AM, James Carlson wrote: > Nicholas Solter writes: >> The OGB resolution at hand seems to me to be unnecessarily >> obstructionist. That is, it simply says that Indiana can't call >> itself >> OpenSolaris without specifying what needs to take place for >> Indiana to >> start calling itself OpenSolaris. > > It cites the lack of a trademark policy and identifies that and future > engagement as a path forward. > >> There's only a vague reference to >> endorsement of the community. What does that mean? If it's simply a >> vote, can't we just put it to a vote and get it over with? > > You'd think. The proponents of the single "OpenSolaris distribution" > have been quite vocal in opposing such a vote and asking for lengthy > delays -- several months of delay in fact. > > Don't get me wrong. We're actually supportive of the project as well, > despite the bizarre new-agey claims of creating "stop energy." The > problem is that we _also_ have to be protective of the community's > ability to govern itself, and part of that ability is in determining > core features, such as the existence of an exclusive reference > distribution. That belongs to the wider community, not one project > team. > > We can't abdicate that responsibility. If we do, then we just don't > exist.
I agree with James. I actually support the idea of a single community defining a single base OpenSolaris distribution upon which all other distributions can choose to base themselves (or not). The problem I see is that Indiana is being developed as a dictatorship, no decisions are made by collaborative input, no decisions are exposed to public review prior to being in place, and no opportunity is being given for true open development. Since the OpenSolaris Constitution was specifically designed to require open development, one or the other must go. This may be as simple as Ian realizing that he has to work within the structure that has been defined, or it may be as simple as Sun realizing that it doesn't want to support this open development concept any more and revise the constitution accordingly. Sun is being two-faced in just about every open source endeavor they are currently operating. I am hoping that the engineers who are supposed to be running OpenSolaris are able to change that, at least for this one endeavor. ....Roy
