Brian Gupta wrote: > On 8/1/07, *Stephen Lau* <stevel at sun.com <mailto:stevel at sun.com>> wrote: > > Brian Gupta wrote: > > John, I think that OpenSolaris can mean all those things and > more. And > > it's all good... Can't we just use context to determine the meaning? > > No. Examples: > > 1) I installed OpenSolaris > - Did you install OpenSolaris the distribution? Or an OpenSolaris-based > distribution? > > > SXCE or SDXE (I haven't heard people referring to nexenta as > OpenSOlaris. Nexenta yes. Gnusolaris yes. Sobuntu yes.
But why? Out of convention? Or for any technical reason? > 2) I built OpenSolaris > - Did you build OpenSolaris the distribution? Or build an > OpenSolaris-based distribution? > > > Generally it is interpreted as the ON consolidation. (I thought this was > pretty well understood.) Again, out of convention. But OpenSolaris is much much more than just ON. Arguably JDS is the most open consolidation available on OpenSolaris.org, definitely more open than ON. > 3) Go grab OpenSolaris from OpenSolaris at OpenSolaris. > - A nonsense sentence? Not if OpenSolaris can mean multiple things. > This could mean "Go grab OpenSolaris (the distribution) from OpenSolaris > (the webapp) at OpenSolaris (the website)" > > > To me OpenSolaris (the bits/distro) has come to mean SXCE (I know that > this is so wrong in many ways. I wish we could just push the final > wrapping of SXpress outside, so we can change the name to OpenSolaris). > Outside distros are always called by their name. (Nexenta/Belenix/Shillix) ... while other people (including others in Sun) may agree with you there, I don't. I think it's unfair to others for Sun to rename its distribution to be "OpenSolaris" (which is a Sun trademark), thus implying (to me anyway) that somehow their distribution is more canonical (no reference to Canonical Ltd. intended) than any other OpenSolaris-derived distribution. > Actually come to think of it, probably no one outside of Sun thinks that > OpenSolaris is a webapp. (I thought it was called Jive)... No, Jive is merely the POS forum software we use. The rest of the webapp is called the 'Tonic' webapp. > Generally people say Opensolaris.org <http://Opensolaris.org> or "the > opensolaris website" Agreed. I was mostly being a smartass with the last statement there ;-) > P.S. - I just noticed this is an OGB discussion. I will stop talking now... Don't. This is a good discussion, and certainly relevant to the OGB if we are talking about the context of what OpenSolaris is or means. cheers, steve -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development
