On 8/1/07, Stephen Lau <stevel at sun.com> wrote: > > Brian Gupta wrote: > > On 8/1/07, *Stephen Lau* <stevel at sun.com <mailto:stevel at sun.com>> > > wrote: > > > > Brian Gupta wrote: > > > John, I think that OpenSolaris can mean all those things and > > more. And > > > it's all good... Can't we just use context to determine the > meaning? > > > > No. Examples: > > > > 1) I installed OpenSolaris > > - Did you install OpenSolaris the distribution? Or an > OpenSolaris-based > > distribution? > > > > > > SXCE or SDXE (I haven't heard people referring to nexenta as > > OpenSOlaris. Nexenta yes. Gnusolaris yes. Sobuntu yes. > > But why? Out of convention? Or for any technical reason?
Convention. (I assume this convention came about to prevent confusion.) > 2) I built OpenSolaris > > - Did you build OpenSolaris the distribution? Or build an > > OpenSolaris-based distribution? > > > > > > Generally it is interpreted as the ON consolidation. (I thought this was > > pretty well understood.) > > Again, out of convention. But OpenSolaris is much much more than just > ON. Arguably JDS is the most open consolidation available on > OpenSolaris.org, definitely more open than ON. Yes but convention is nothing to be overlooked. Even though we may not understand or agree with them, there are always reasons that conventions become conventions > 3) Go grab OpenSolaris from OpenSolaris at OpenSolaris. > > - A nonsense sentence? Not if OpenSolaris can mean multiple things. > > This could mean "Go grab OpenSolaris (the distribution) from > OpenSolaris > > (the webapp) at OpenSolaris (the website)" > > > > > > To me OpenSolaris (the bits/distro) has come to mean SXCE (I know that > > this is so wrong in many ways. I wish we could just push the final > > wrapping of SXpress outside, so we can change the name to OpenSolaris). > > Outside distros are always called by their name. > (Nexenta/Belenix/Shillix) > > ... while other people (including others in Sun) may agree with you > there, I don't. I think it's unfair to others for Sun to rename its > distribution to be "OpenSolaris" (which is a Sun trademark), thus > implying (to me anyway) that somehow their distribution is more > canonical (no reference to Canonical Ltd. intended) than any other > OpenSolaris-derived distribution. When I talk to Sun and say I want to run OpenSolaris I am handed a nice copy of either SXDE and/or SXCE. I am sure this is almost a universal truth. Currently it is the closest thing to a referential OpenSolaris distro. (At the New York UG meetings, I have made a point to also represent the other distros. I will bring a stack of xyz opensolaris distro and give asmall preso on it... So far I have covered Belenix and Nexenta. > Actually come to think of it, probably no one outside of Sun thinks that > > OpenSolaris is a webapp. (I thought it was called Jive)... > > No, Jive is merely the POS forum software we use. The rest of the > webapp is called the 'Tonic' webapp. vs Tonic the media player... hmmm > Generally people say Opensolaris.org <http://Opensolaris.org> or "the > > opensolaris website" > > Agreed. I was mostly being a smartass with the last statement there ;-) Agreed. ;) -Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/attachments/20070801/2f23392d/attachment.html>
