On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, John Plocher wrote: > Stephen Lau wrote: >> As I alluded to in one of my other emails - I think we do potentially >> lose. What happens if next year's election rolls around, and we fail to >> reach the 50% required turnout? What if we fail to reach it by the 13 >> votes that we just gave to the LDom folks? (Not to pick on them - I'm >> just using them as the convenient example we're currently debating) >> >> If Community Groups and voting privileges were disconnected more, then >> I'd be more open to this. > > > This points out a need to either manage Core membership better or > to change the 50% voting rule, or to tie in voting requirements to > continued core membership or ..., but it does not (IMHO) mean we > should stop growing our community. > > I agree that the current state of the OpenSolaris Meta-Community > governance is not what it should be, due in a large part to the > unfortunate fact that the governance state of the various OpenSolaris > communities themselves is almost rock bottom non-existent. > > What can we do? The "hands off" OGB approach with zero tonic-team > resources ("Here's the constitution, go make up your own processes, > we can't/won't help, good luck") isn't working very well; most CGs > don't know where to start, don't have any way of supporting their > governance actions with website tools or infrastructure, and don't > have much (any?) motivation to actually do the work. Given the way > we have stacked the deck against them, is it any wonder why they are > not more involved?
John - your points are well made and difficult to refute. I remember Roy Fielding making a point (in a conversation) that the single most useful and productive Apache related governance activity, was/is a monthly ("status") conf call with each group. Regards, Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX. al at logical-approach.com Voice: 972.379.2133 Fax: 972.379.2134 Timezone: US CDT OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ogb_2005-2007/