As I've said - I'm fine with LDom's being a community. I had reservations as to how much content they are actually going to have - but those have been allayed by Ashley's assurances that they will have content, lists, code, open discussion and open development.
I still express my concern that communities are adding only more people to our pool of people who will probably end up not voting though thus increasing the likelihood of a future election/vote not being able to drum up the 50% turnout required to make it count. cheers, steve Octave Orgeron wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Perhaps we're looking at this the wrong way? Zones, Xen, LDom's, etc > are all virtualization technologies. No question about that. But, > should they all be under a virtualization community? I question if it > should be one community with a bunch of projects under it. Obviously, > Zones, Xen, and LDom's are different from a technology standpoint. > Perhaps, this can be simplified by having top level "topics" with > communities under them? This would just be a top level organizational > change and promote communities under topics. This could be applied to > other communities, i.e. ZFS, UFS, SVM, QFS, NFS under "Storage and File > Systems"? I'm just concerned that we're letting the hierarchy of the > opensolaris.org website define what a community or a project is, when > it should be the other way around. > > In anycase, I think having an LDom community makes a lot of sense. With > source code and projects, it's a large enough area for development and > documentation to warrant a community. > > Octave > > > --- Stephen Lau <stevel at sun.com> wrote: > >> John Plocher wrote: >>> Stephen Lau wrote: >>>> With a key difference being that ON went and built its own website >> and >>>> infrastructure: opensolaris.org. ON wasn't joining anyone else's >> community. >>>> If LDoms wants to pursue that path, then more power to it. But >> it's >>>> seeking to join our community, and as such, should play nice by >> how our >>>> community feels. >>> >>> No disagreement here - just don't set up a us-vs-them system where >>> "they" have to jump thru more hoops than we ourselves do... >>> >>> My "vote" is to let them do what they desire; it takes nothing >>> away from ON or OS.o to have more stuff and more people in the >>> community; after all, OS.o has always been intended to be much >>> much more than simply a place to open source the ON consolidation. >>> >>> Even if we guess wrong and the LDOM folks can't make a go of things >>> in the long term, we still don't lose. I don't see any downside to >>> spinning up another CG for this effort - and I see a huge downside >>> to throwing arbitrary obstacles in their path. >>> >>> <cynicism> >>> On the other hand, if this all means we need to de-charter >>> ON as a community group because it isn't meeting those same >>> requirements... >>> </cynicism> >>> >>> -John (Sometimes we seem to be our own worst enemy) Plocher >> As I alluded to in one of my other emails - I think we do potentially >> >> lose. What happens if next year's election rolls around, and we fail >> to >> reach the 50% required turnout? What if we fail to reach it by the >> 13 >> votes that we just gave to the LDom folks? (Not to pick on them - >> I'm >> just using them as the convenient example we're currently debating) >> >> If Community Groups and voting privileges were disconnected more, >> then >> I'd be more open to this. >> >> cheers, >> steve >> >> -- >> stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net >> opensolaris // solaris kernel development >> _______________________________________________ >> ogb-discuss mailing list >> ogb-discuss at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ogb-discuss >> > > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > Octave J. Orgeron > Solaris Systems Engineer > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/sysadmin/ > http://unixconsole.blogspot.com > unixconsole at yahoo.com > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all > the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development
