John Plocher wrote: > Al Hopper wrote: >> As Stephen Lau has already asserted, the LDom members have no track >> record of community participation (nice detective work Steve!). Have >> they suddenly gotten "religion" - or received a management dictate? >> Will they really transform from closed to open design and development >> at the drop of a hat? Are all the existing LDOM developers committed >> to Open design/development? Are they really willing and able to >> participate in the OpenSolaris political systems and willing to put >> the effort into merging into a vibrant and successful Virtualization >> Community? > > At the risk of the kettle calling the pot names, I'm hard put to tell > the difference between LDOM and ON - after all, ON was opensourced > via a management dictate, it hasn't really transformed completely > from closed to open design and development - certainly not as speedy > as a drop of a hat, and I'm pretty sure not all the existing ON > developers are committed to (much less engaged in) Open design > and development.... > > Lets not hold new communities hostage to rules and expectations that > we ourselves can't fully meet. > >> Expect the best (of people) - plan for the worst.... > > Expect the best, build process around the assumption that people > will do the right thing, & make sure that you have a lightweight > exception handling process that can deal with the rare instances > where someone plays nasty. Planning for the worst usually isn't > worth the social poisoning it encourages....
With a key difference being that ON went and built its own website and infrastructure: opensolaris.org. ON wasn't joining anyone else's community. If LDoms wants to pursue that path, then more power to it. But it's seeking to join our community, and as such, should play nice by how our community feels. cheers, steve -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development
