On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, John Plocher wrote:

> Al Hopper wrote:
>> Is'nt that the way Solaris (before OpenSolaris) has always worked!?
>
> Not really - when the ARCs are aware of multiple efforts in the same area,
> they generally try to force the multiple parties together before any of
> them get to commitment - this is one of those problems that is much easier
> to resolve earlier rather than later...
>
>
>> No one has a crystal ball that can see into the future 
>
> Granted - but one *can* and *should* ask whether there is work in
> progress in an area where the symptoms point out that there indeed
> is something being done.  James and Alan both have referenced efforts
> in progress; that is enough for me to move this from being one of
> those "unknowable future possibilities" into "a definite probability".
>
> It is all about using good judgment.
>
> Given that we have some warning (the crystal ball really is lighting
> up), it behooves us to do at least one pass of followup.  Of course,
> if Sun's/LSI's response is "duuh, maybe, sortof, we might someday
> think about...", then we're done - and mfi should get a green light.
>
> The failure mode here is that our left hand isn't talking too well
> with our right hand, and that the LSI stuff might be more concrete
> than it appears.  We don't know any of the FACTs about the Sun/LSI
> effort; all I'm saying is to make an attempt to get the other
> perspective.
>
>> "Lead, follow or get out of the way"!
>
> Ready, fire, aim?

:)

> The timeframe for asking this question and getting an answer
> should be on the order of a week - what's the rush?

Agreed.

>
>> ----- Urgent Request -----
>> Hi - my name is Al Hopper and I have a future MegaSAS driver (which I'm 
>> going to call mfi2) that will possibly be ready in 3 months or 6 months or 
>> sooner and .... could you possibly ensure that no-one else integrates a 
>> similar driver ahead of me, because it would possibly complicate my future 
>> RTI.  Thanks!
>> ---- end of Urgent Request ------
>
> ---- Response to Urgent Request ----
> Hi Al, please go off and coordinate with David and [TBD at LSI] to ensure
> that all of your efforts are aligned and that you are not duplicating
> efforts.  Which ever of you three comes to ARC first will be required
> to show that you are in fact collaborating with each other at an
> architectural level because of the difficulties involved with supporting
> multiple drivers for the same hardware in Solaris.
> ----

Very good! :)

>  -John

Good answer John - and well presented.  Points taken.
Thanks for a great discussion.

Regards,

Al Hopper  Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX.  al at logical-approach.com
            Voice: 972.379.2133 Fax: 972.379.2134  Timezone: US CDT
OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007
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Graduate from "sugar-coating school"?  Sorry - I never attended! :)

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