It might be there because eventually, there'd be someone, somewhere who
would have a totally bizarre situation that we could never dream of ahead of
time where it would be necessary to make a Con check. It may be virtually
unnecessary, but adding in one line for the sake of completeness is probably
warranted in my opinion.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoffrey McVey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 2:45 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: [ogf-d20-l] Creatures lacking stats
> 
> Thanks for all the answers.  There's still only one point that's nagging 
> me.  Doug quoted me and said:
> 
> >>  Can anyone think of circumstances in which a Con-less creature would 
> >> need to make a Con check, where it would make sense for that check to 
> >> fail automatically?  The only examples I can think of have to do with 
> >> fatigue, holding one's breath, and so on -- none of which really seem
> >>to apply to undead.
> >
> >You've got it right on the head.  :)  Constitution checks deal with
> things 
> >about your life force--and undead and constructs don't have a life force,
> 
> >so don't have to worry.
> 
> So... why put the line in *at all* about failing Con checks (and it *is* 
> for Con-less creatures, not for ones with a Con of zero; I 
> double-checked)?  I mean, if none of the creatures lacking Con have to 
> worry about checks involving their life force, what's the point of having 
> that sentence there?  Am I missing something blindingly obvious, or can
> any 
> of you come up with a situation in which you'd say, "The vampire fails her
> 
> Con check, so X happens"?
> 
> Puzzled,
> G.

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