>Ryan has already pointed out, the use of trademarks within a product is
>NOT something permitted by trademark law.

Mr. Dancey is simply incorrect, insofar as federal law is concerned.

>From the Harvard University legal information site at 
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/metaschool/fisher/domain/tm.htm#7

Under federal law a company can bring action on the basis of trademarks for 
two reasons; INFRINGEMENT, or DILUTION:

INFRINGEMENT:  If a party owns the rights to a particular trademark, that 
party can sue subsequent parties for trademark infringement. 15 U.S.C. §§ 
1114, 1125. The standard is "likelihood of confusion." To be more specific, 
the use of a trademark in connection with the sale of a good constitutes 
infringement if it is likely to cause consumer confusion as to the source of 
those goods or as to the sponsorship or approval of such goods.

DILUTION:  In addition to bringing an action for infringement, owners of 
trademarks can also bring an action for trademark dilution against any use 
of that mark that dilutes the distinctive quality of that mark, either 
through "blurring" or "tarnishment" of that mark:

     Blurring occurs when the power of the mark is weakened through its
     identification with dissimilar goods. For example, Kodak brand
     bicycles or Xerox brand cigarettes.

     Tarnishment occurs when the mark is cast in an unflattering light,
     typically through its association with inferior or unseemly
     products or services. So, for example, in a recent case, ToysRUs
     successfully brought a tarnishment claim against adultsrus.com, a
     pornographic web-site.

None of this prohibits referring to trademarks in a published work.

Further, the use that Mr. Dancey refers to, eg, a small label saying:

     This product is designed to work with Dungeons and Dragons.  The
     makers of this product are not associated with The makers of
     Dungeons and Dragons and have used this trademark without
     permission.

is  ... simply  ... not  ... against ... the ... statute.

>I'm just not certain where people are having so much difficulty with this 
>proposal.

I'm personally (and I am not alone it appears) going to have philosophical 
concerns with *any* provision in the OGL that seeks to extend restictions 
into areas of the law where restrictions currently do not exist - 
particularly when that restriction seems to benefit one player in the market 
almost exclusively.

>Where is it, exactly that people intend on using trademarks other than
>for advertising purposes?

What does it matter to you?  If the use listed above is not illegal, has 
never been illegal, and (god willing) we will never have a system that is so 
restictively anal and paranoid as to make such a minor and unharmful use 
against the law.

Faust

See the OGF FAQ (soon to be update with more specific trademark info) at:
http://www.earth1066.com/D20FAQ.htm


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