>>From: woodelf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>agreed.  the problem isn't the use of a system, it's the style of
>>presentation that specifically catering to one system tends to
>>engender.  look at the Citybooks--ultimately, they used
>>slightly-genericized AD&D for their system bits, but, they weren't
>>designed as "AD&D supplements" but rather "fantasy supplements that
>>are being marketed to AD&D players".
>
>Because like it or not D&D players make up the majority of the 
>purchasing audience. Most of them like the "traditional" fantasy 
>tropes and most really only want to see products that use those 
>tropes with a few additional kewl ideas (usually powers or items).

i think you misread me.  i was arguing that "fantasy supplements that 
are being marketed to AD&D players" are *good* from the POV of this 
non-D&D player, and preferable to "D&D supplements".  it's not the 
content i'm objecting to, it's the presentation.
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