on 1/26/03 8:50 PM, Faustus von Goethe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> The situation here is that when Mongoose copied all the PrsCs from the
> NETBOOK, they inadvertantly left out part of the section 15, thereby failing
> to pass-on author's credit for some 34 or so prestige classes.

small correction here. There were 13 classes from the netbook of classes.
The rest of the 34 non-mongoose games classes were taken from various d20
publishers, and some of them were credited and some were not.


> Likely because you were not aware of my early involvement with the Netbook
> efforts.  Even though it was peripheral and fleeting, I feel a personal
> pride for what they are doing.  Like any good anarchist I also have a soft
> spot for rugged loners who do what they do for nothing other than the
> opportunity to contribute.
> 
> Moreover, the COUNCILS have continued to insist on high standards and (for
> the most part) meticulous marking of OGL material.
> 
> Anybody in the industry who continues to natter on about how "hard" it seems
> to be to appropriately mark the content and follow the licenses need look no
> farther.  This group of rank amateurs in most cases does it flawlessly.

Not without a lot of effort. You might be surprised at how many submissions
we get that reference abilities from non-OGC material. Everyone wants to use
stuff from WOTC publications and we have a standard statement we send back
to authors that we cannot use material taken in this way.

Still, something gets through occasionally. We had one author submit a
Limbant prestige class that was inspired by a 2nd edition kit. However, none
of us had the source material and the author was one of our reviewers so we
trusted him to be doing it right, after admonishing him that he could not
just cut-and-paste. Well, imagine my chagrin when I was contacted by an
outraged author who had his Limbant posted on a fan site, and not as OGC
material. His version was a conversion of the Limbant from 2nd edition.
After that, I got hold of the Ranger book in question, and compared all
three versions and saw that our author had copied whole sections from both.
I informed him this was unacceptable and had his class removed from our
website. I sent a note of apology to the fan author as well, and assured him
that it would not happen again.

The limbant has undergone severe changes to original material now, and is
called the Verdant (that was my suggested name before Masters of the Wild
came out -- oh well :). It still awaits publishing and I'm going to go over
it with a fine-toothed comb before I remove my objections to it.

My point is, everyone makes mistakes, and we can't catch everything, but we
can do our best to fix the problems as they arise.

Becky Glenn
Netbook of Classes
> 
> As a result I am convinced that the so-called "professional" publishers who
> screw it up are either lazy or are intentionally obfusticating to make it
> harder for others to reuse their material.
> 
>> I am a strong advocate of asking permission even when
>> you dont have to. I think it avoids things like this.
> 
> Here Here!  I agree 100%.
> 
> Faust
> 
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