I think it should be the other way around as I expect production builds to be 
smallest possible to speed up any IO when software is installed on network 
storage.

It’s a bit like saying your expecting the software to crash so make the library 
3x bigger.. OIIO is pretty stable in most places I see it used and only is 
unstable with any of the bleeding edge dev.

I do expect the debug build to be as fast as the production one but just with 
all the symbols so a trace makes some sense.

.malcolm

> On 11 Jan 2016, at 10:25 pm, Larry Gritz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> That sounds to me like a small price to pay in order to always have a clean 
> stack trace and be able to profile without a recompile.
> 
> We can add a build-time flag to force not using -g, for those who really 
> don't want to pay for the 70M. 
> 
> Does that sound reasonable? Or do you think the default should be the other 
> way around? (Keep optimized build as it is, eliminate separate "profile" 
> mode, and simply have a build-time flag to turn on -g?)
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 2:12 PM, Thiago Ize <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is the only issue is the library takes up more space on 
>> disk.  On my mac with OIIO 1.5, it increases the libOpenImageIO.a from 25MB 
>> to 92MB.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Larry Gritz <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Is there a down-side to using -g to include the symbols for all optimized 
>> builds? Does it make the library or binaries dramatically bigger? (You can 
>> always strip binaries to fix that.)
>> 
>> There are no secrecy- or security-based reasons to avoid symbols, as you 
>> might for a commercial product.
>> 
>> Maybe eliminate profile mode entirely, have the optimized build use -g by 
>> default, but have a build-time option to not embed the symbols, for anybody 
>> who really needs to squeeze out that last bit of storage?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Thiago Ize <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think profile mode should be the same as release mode but with -g added 
>>> in, otherwise it's possible I'll waste time trying to optimize a hotspot in 
>>> -O2 that doesn't exist in the -O3 build.  Furthermore, this would make it 
>>> simple for the fedora/debian/etc... builds to build with symbols -- they 
>>> just choose profile mode and be done with it.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Larry Gritz <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> There is nothing sacred about the current profile mode. If a different set 
>>> of flags would be more useful, let's change it.
>>> 
>>>         -- lg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > On Jan 11, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Thiago Ize <[email protected] 
>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > There's a difference between symbols (-g), -DNDEBUG, and "debug mode" 
>>> > (-O0, -g).  If you're actually building in debug mode and then stripping 
>>> > symbols, all your users are now getting a really slow and crappy OIIO 
>>> > without any optimizations.  What you want is to just add the debug 
>>> > symbols  (-g) to the release mode.  Ideally the profile mode would do 
>>> > this for you, but I think the profile mode in OIIO uses different 
>>> > optimization settings, which makes it kind of useless (you want to 
>>> > profile the real code made with -O3, not the -O2 code).
>>> >
>>> >
>> 
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