Alex, my fear is that the term 'series' alone doesn't indicate that  
there is more than one kind of series. When you hear the two terms  
together it makes sense, but when you just hear 'series' it can be  
ambiguous.

That said, I'm up for anything that works. I also think this is a  
discussion we want to have about bibliographic catalogs in general --  
it's clearly not just an OL issue. I may start a thread on one of the  
library lists -- probably NGC4LIB:

http://dewey.library.nd.edu/mailing-lists/ngc4lib/

I'm curious if others have already faced this issue, and what they decided.

kc

Quoting Alex Stinson <[email protected]>:

> Karen
>
> I think you have identified the heart of the matter with this but I am
> unsure whether "reader series" is an appropriate term. I think "series" and
> "publication   
> series<http://www.google.com/#q=publication+series&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=sH8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&fp=6b353df19b06cafa>"
> (see the google search) may be more accurate in their description of
> variables. Places like Wikipedia, commonly use "series" alone to denote
> fictional series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Novel_series)
> whereas series of academic works are called "Monographs in series" (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_series). That is a small nitpicky thing
> though,
>
> Alex
>
> On 15 October 2010 11:08, Karen Coyle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think we have two meanings of series going:
>>
>> 1. A group of works that have something meaningful in common based on
>> their content (Harry Potter as a series, Alan Banks mysteries as a
>> series)
>>
>> 2. A designation of membership in a published set (The Great Books Series)
>>
>> Library cataloging only recognizes #2. The series titles in
>> parentheses in the Amazon records also appear to be #2. I don't know
>> of a distinguishing term for #1, however. There are web sites that
>> chronicle book series, like:
>>   http://www.nlc.state.ne.us/ref/booksinseries/
>> to help people read all of a series, and to read it in order.
>>
>> Maybe we can call #2 a 'publisher's series' and #1 a 'reader's series'?
>>
>> With this distinction, #1 is at the work level, #2 is at the edition level.
>>
>> kc
>>
>> Quoting Alan Millar <[email protected]>:
>>
>> >> Currently the series field is attached in the database to editions, we
>> >> should move it to the work, because all editions of a work should be
>> >> part of the same series.
>> >
>> > That begs the question of what constitutes a series then.  I see books
>> > labelled something like "Classic Reprint Series" because that one
>> > publisher decided to reprint a bunch of old books, according to their
>> > own criteria of what they thnk is classic.   In this case, the series
>> > does only apply to the one edition, and not all of the editions of the
>> > work.  Does that mean this series label gets demoted and we deem it
>> > not really a series?  Sounds like a slippery-slope nightmare of
>> > judgement to me.  Or is there a standard definition of series that I
>> > just don't know about, and everyone else knows that such a series is
>> > not really a series?
>> >
>> > Just based on my casual observations, it seems like the series should
>> > be available at the edition level.  Perhaps like the title and
>> > subtitle, though, there could be a series entry for both the work and
>> > the edition.
>> >
>> > - Alan
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