On 5/3/12 3:21 PM, Ben Companjen wrote:

>
> English Wikipedia's compact definition of volume [3] doesn't really
> help me understand the concept, but following the Dutch definition [4]
> and Karen's explanation in [1], I think volumes should be parts of
> editions. All volumes together are one edition of a work. Another
> edition may have the content in a single volume.

I agree. "Volume-ness" is an aspect of the creation of a physical 
publication, generally. So any edition would have 1 or more volumes.

The difficulty seems to arise in the process of scanning. For the 
purposes of scanning, each physical volume becomes a scanned file. When 
scanning agencies haven't planned for multiple volumes, they set up 
their rules such that:

1 volume = 1 file = 1 metadata record = 1 edition

The formula needs to be

1 edition = 1 metadata record = 1 or >1 volumes and one file per volume

Just about everyone who has taken on scanning has made this same mistake 
(as Tom points out).

OL would need to have a hierarchical layer in between editions and the 
files that represent volumes, but at the moment that layer doesn't 
exist, and there isn't a way to associate files with volumes.

Somewhere there needs to be a document entitled "BEFORE YOU START 
SCANNING BOOKS, READ THIS!" that includes tips of this nature so we can 
quit making this mistake over and over.

kc

>
> Perhaps the /type/volume can somehow be used to store the information
> about each volume (volume title, physical aspects)?
>
> Ben
> (still not a librarian)
>
> [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00242.html
> [2] http://openlibrary.org/type/volume
> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_%28publishing%29
> [4] http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_%28fysieke_informatiedrager%29
>
> On 3 May 2012 21:26, Lars Aronsson<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> This record http://openlibrary.org/works/OL15528638W/Tietosanakirja
>> has the title "Tietosanakirja", but it is volume 11 of that work.
>>
>> This record was created from a book scanned by the Internet Archive,
>> http://archive.org/details/tietosanakirja11bons
>> and there is only the number "11" in the URL that indicates this
>> is one of many volumes of a work.
>>
>> Does the OpenLibrary now have a way to create a record for the work,
>> and connect together the records for each of the 11 volumes? I.e.
>> is there a "part of" relationship between OpenLibrary records?
>>
>> I think I asked the same question in the past, but that was one or
>> two years ago.
>>
>>
>> --
>>    Lars Aronsson ([email protected])
>>    Project Runeberg - free Nordic literature - http://runeberg.org/
>>
>>
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