typed by thumbs and sent by gadget On May 3, 2012 7:10 PM, "Suzanne Pilsk" <[email protected]> wrote:
> We have been struggling with where to put the volume information in the > Biodiversity heritage library project. We are now providing MODs records > and looking for the best place to put this information so that others can > take and reuse in their local systems. > > Anyone want to play with some tests to see if we can provide and you can > ingest our records? > > Feel free to contact me off list. > > typed by thumbs and sent by gadget > On May 3, 2012 6:51 PM, "Karen Coyle" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 5/3/12 3:21 PM, Ben Companjen wrote: >> >> > >> > English Wikipedia's compact definition of volume [3] doesn't really >> > help me understand the concept, but following the Dutch definition [4] >> > and Karen's explanation in [1], I think volumes should be parts of >> > editions. All volumes together are one edition of a work. Another >> > edition may have the content in a single volume. >> >> I agree. "Volume-ness" is an aspect of the creation of a physical >> publication, generally. So any edition would have 1 or more volumes. >> >> The difficulty seems to arise in the process of scanning. For the >> purposes of scanning, each physical volume becomes a scanned file. When >> scanning agencies haven't planned for multiple volumes, they set up >> their rules such that: >> >> 1 volume = 1 file = 1 metadata record = 1 edition >> >> The formula needs to be >> >> 1 edition = 1 metadata record = 1 or >1 volumes and one file per volume >> >> Just about everyone who has taken on scanning has made this same mistake >> (as Tom points out). >> >> OL would need to have a hierarchical layer in between editions and the >> files that represent volumes, but at the moment that layer doesn't >> exist, and there isn't a way to associate files with volumes. >> >> Somewhere there needs to be a document entitled "BEFORE YOU START >> SCANNING BOOKS, READ THIS!" that includes tips of this nature so we can >> quit making this mistake over and over. >> >> kc >> >> > >> > Perhaps the /type/volume can somehow be used to store the information >> > about each volume (volume title, physical aspects)? >> > >> > Ben >> > (still not a librarian) >> > >> > [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00242.html >> > [2] http://openlibrary.org/type/volume >> > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_%28publishing%29 >> > [4] http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_%28fysieke_informatiedrager%29 >> > >> > On 3 May 2012 21:26, Lars Aronsson<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> This record http://openlibrary.org/works/OL15528638W/Tietosanakirja >> >> has the title "Tietosanakirja", but it is volume 11 of that work. >> >> >> >> This record was created from a book scanned by the Internet Archive, >> >> http://archive.org/details/tietosanakirja11bons >> >> and there is only the number "11" in the URL that indicates this >> >> is one of many volumes of a work. >> >> >> >> Does the OpenLibrary now have a way to create a record for the work, >> >> and connect together the records for each of the 11 volumes? I.e. >> >> is there a "part of" relationship between OpenLibrary records? >> >> >> >> I think I asked the same question in the past, but that was one or >> >> two years ago. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Lars Aronsson ([email protected]) >> >> Project Runeberg - free Nordic literature - http://runeberg.org/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Ol-discuss mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ol-discuss mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] >> >> -- >> Karen Coyle >> [email protected] http://kcoyle.net >> ph: 1-510-540-7596 >> m: 1-510-435-8234 >> skype: kcoylenet >> _______________________________________________ >> Ol-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] >> >
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