On 31/08/2013 13:48, Ben Companjen wrote:
Hi Richard,
On 31 August 2013 10:47, Richard Light <[email protected]> wrote:
I'll chip in here, rather than adding to your page, because I would like to
get some feedback from the list as to whether I'm out on a limb here (given
the lack of response to my last couple of posts).
Not trying to be annoying, but I only found one recent post by you,
which got response on the ol-tech list (since the topic was a bit
technical).
Ah. My second post had an attachment which took it over the size limit,
and I was hoping the list moderator would let it through. I'll forward
it to you separately.
As regards my first message, I seem to have dropped off ol-tech, and
although I have just (re-)subscribed, the archives are empty so I
haven't seen that reply.
I would like the author information in OL to be better, and to be
better-connected. Authors are people too (allegedly) and they offer a
possibility, maybe the only possibility, of cross-linking OL to other
(non-bibliographic) Linked Data resources. Obviously there's a trade-off
here, in that we don't want to put contributors off by being too demanding,
but:
Authors in OL may also be corporate entities (government bodies,
corporations, NGOs), conferences or group pseudonyms (although those
are more rare). There is no difference in the data yet, except for a
few records.
True enough, though the presence of birth and death information ought to
be an indicator of the author entity type.
It should also include Wikipedia identifiers where these are present
in the data
By 'identifiers', did you mean URLs? There are Wikipedia URLs
("Links") for some people. Some records include a special "wikipedia"
field.
Yes, I was thinking of URLs, and I suppose I was thinking more of
dbpedia than Wikipedia (though I think they have slugs in common).
with a little gentle encouragement, we could make the author birth and death
date information usable in a machine-processing sense. Most dates are
already useful as entered, despite the lack of guidelines
we could enable the (structured) recording of place of birth and death.
There are a handful of these in the data already, crammed in on the end of
the date field
A bot should try to parse the dates and put these in the records in a
separate field (e.g. "date_of_birth_parsed"). The contents of this
field can then be transformed to an xsd:date value in RDF.
Alternatively, I have 300K+ author records with dates, extracted from
OL, which I have spent some time tidying up. If there was an agreed
format in which I could present them for merging back in, I would be
happy to do so.
Author names could be looked up on dbpedia, and if there is an existing
entry (a) the link can be included in the OL data and (b) details like
DoB/PoB can be copied from that source into the OL data.
It is debatable whether that is allowed in accordance with the
CC-BY-SA licence that Wikipedia and DBpedia use, although we're not
too strict on the enforcement and don't use a less strict licence on
the OL data. Looking up a name in DBpedia could be challenging, but
experimenting is easy when you already have both datasets downloaded
in dump files.
Point taken.
Richard
Richard
Ben
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