On the translations issue, my suggestion is to allow the user to sort the 
editions of a work by date (ascending or descending) or by language (then by 
date). That would provide a simple way to find all editions in a language 
without getting too complex on the code or making any changes to the database. 

As to volumes, given what you have now, what would you recommend? Volumes as 
Works or as Editions? 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tom Morris" <[email protected]> 
To: "Open Library -- technical discussion" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:45:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [ol-tech] Fwd: How to handle Volumes within an Edition?? 

There isn't really a good solution to this currently. OpenLibrary is kind of 
caught between existing library cataloging practice only catalogs editions, not 
works, and keeps all volumes together on a single edition record; and the needs 
of Internet Archive to have individual volumes recorded so that they match up 
with the scanning. 

Supporting multi-volume editions would require additional engineering work as 
well as a change in current practices. 

It's worth noting that a similar situation exists currently with translations. 
Translated editions are all collected together in the same work with original 
language editions. This is, I believe, the correct way to do it, but because 
there's no easy way to filter by language, the pile of editions can be quite a 
jumble for popular works. 

Tom 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Hi-storian < [email protected] > wrote: 



See my email, below for details. 


From: "Open Library Support" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 12:15:00 PM 
Subject: Re: Support case *Other* 



Hi and thank you for contacting us, 

Yep, there is no non-mess way to do this at this time and I'm actually 
not even sure if there's a standard way to do it for the way our records 
are currently imported. You're welcome to asdk on the ol-tech list to 
see if someone there has a little more insight into the meta-aspects 
than I do. Details are on this page (the archives link is wrong but 
otherwise the page is accurate) 

https://openlibrary.org/community 

Thanks for using openlibrary.org and archive.org 

The Open Library Team/jw 
[email protected] 

On 2/18/16 11:54 AM, [email protected] wrote: 
> 
> 
> Description: 
> 
> I understand the nature and relation between Work records and Editions 
> records, but I have a question that doesn't seem to be answered in your FAQ 
> anywhere. 
> 
> How do you enter an Edition that contains multiple volumes. In theory, you 
> should be able to create multiple volume records under the Edition record, 
> just as you create multiple Edition records under a Work record. 
> 
> I'm assuming the work around is to enter each separate volume as a new 
> "Edition" ... but that's not quite right. It would create a mess that would 
> quickly be confusing. After all, the 1st Edition may have 2 volumes, the 2nd 
> Edition 4 volumes, the 3rd edition 6 volumes .... Imagine how confusing if 
> the volumes are all jumbled up without being clearly set together within an 
> Edition. 
> 
> Is there a way to do this correctly, of is this a feature "in the works" for 
> a later release? What should I do in the meantime so records don't have to be 
> re-entered? 
> 
> Thanks! Hi-storian 
> 
> A new support case has been filed by Hi-storian < [email protected] >. 
> 
> Topic: Other 
> URL: https://openlibrary.org 
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:44.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/44.0 
> OL-username: Hi-storian 
> 




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