The same thought occurred to me, but having no "place" in any decision making, I hesitated to make the suggestion. I was involved way back in 1996 - 98 in the startup of the USGenWeb Project - www.usgenweb.com which is made up entirely of volunteers for Genealogy, so I have a background in the organization of such a volunteer organization. I will be happy to provide my expertise.
John Rigdon www.researchonline.net > David, I was just thinking that some kind of committee/group/community > could be formed to manage the OL decisions, so your WMF example here is > very opportune. A project like OL succeeds only inasmuch as it has an > active community, and that is what we are struggling with now. At a > recent conference I met with library techies who are interested in OL > and some of whom use its APIs rather heavily. They, too, have a strong > interest in the direction of OL. So there seems to be a potential > community (or a confluence of potential communities). > > Note that there are IA activities that are very intertwined with OL, in > particular the library lending program. However, I'm not sure what the > exact relationship will be after the transition is done, so that's a bit > of information that I'm missing. For me it brings up the question of the > degree to which OL can change independently of IA. > > I think we need a meeting with IA folk. I'm not sure I can make that > happen, but I'll make the first overture and report back. > > kc > > On 2/26/13 6:51 AM, David Cuenca wrote: >> Karen, >> Thank you very much for your insightful message. I was wondering who I >> should contact for a possible project to make Wikisource's public domain >> works available through OL. >> I know there is the option to create a bot to add materials, but it is >> hard to know if that would be acceptable if there is no one to ask or no >> decision-making procedures... >> >> Is OL going to be under IA administration or is it supposed to be >> managed together with the community? As an example of the second, he WMF >> has a model where the foundation sets the general vision and >> infrastructure and the community democratically elects representatives >> and seeks consensus on site policies. >> >> David >> >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Karen Coyle <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Ben, >> >> At the moment there is no project lead on OL. So although Anand can >> make >> the technical changes, I'm not sure that there is a way to make >> *decisions* about OL. >> >> I just wanted to make it clear that Anand is not shirking his duty >> but >> is actually taking on extra duties at times because he's about the >> only >> one working on OL right now. I think we need to find a way to have a >> discussion with Brewster about the future of OL and how it will be >> able >> to respond to user needs. Brewster may be more interested in talking >> about that after the transition to the IA platform is completed -- >> that >> seems to be foremost in his mind at the moment. >> >> kc >> >> On 2/26/13 5:36 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> > Hi Ben, >> > >> > Currently only admins can edit those pages. I'm thinking of ways >> to >> > enable allowing editing to super users without making them >> admins. >> > >> > Anand >> > >> > On 26-Feb-2013, at 2:53 PM, Ben Companjen wrote: >> > >> >> Anand, could you please also address the main question that I >> started >> >> this thread with? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Ben >> >> >> >> On Feb 26, 2013 9:18 AM, "Anand Chitipothu" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks for the pointing the issue John. I've fixed it now. >> >> >> >> Anand >> >> >> >> On 26-Feb-2013, at 7:14 AM, John Shutt wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hey all, >> >>> >> >>> I'm also curious about this. For my own part, I ran into >> some >> >>> outdated info on the Bots >> <http://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/bots> >> >>> page, which linked to the openlibrary/openlibrary Github >> repo >> >>> >> >> <https://github.com/openlibrary/openlibrary/blob/master/openlibrary/api.py>, >> >>> where it should probably link to the >> internetarchive/openlibrary >> >>> Github repo >> >>> >> >> <https://github.com/internetarchive/openlibrary/blob/master/openlibrary/api.py>. >> >>> >> >>> John >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Ben Companjen >> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi Anand, other Internet Archivists, >> >>> >> >>> This has been asked before, I'm sure, but if there was >> ever >> >>> an answer, >> >>> it probably wasn't satisfactory to some (including me). >> >>> >> >>> Why are so many pages with information about Open >> Library >> >>> locked up >> >>> for normal users? >> >>> I see so many pages that start with "this page is >> really really >> >>> outdated", or the specification of the contents of dump >> files >> >>> (":TODO: >> >>> :TODO: :TODO:"), but clicking Edit always returns >> "Permission >> >>> denied". >> >>> That is not really user friendly, especially when >> >>> openlibrary.org/help <http://openlibrary.org/help> >> <http://openlibrary.org/help> >> >>> says: 'You are welcome to edit/correct any errors or >> >>> omissions you see >> >>> on openlibrary.org <http://openlibrary.org> >> <http://openlibrary.org/> - it's an open, >> >>> editable wiki. (Just look for the >> >>> "EDIT" button.)'. >> >>> >> >>> And speaking of /help: coincidentally I noticed that it >> was just >> >>> edited by Jessamyn West, who doesn't seem to have any >> >>> relationship >> >>> with the Internet Archive [1]. There must be a policy >> for >> >>> selecting >> >>> people who are given the rights to edit. >> >>> I'd like that policy to be clear, preferably via /help. >> >>> May I suggest to add to the policy that people who >> would like >> >>> rights >> >>> to edit, introduce themselves on the ol-discussion list >> (this >> >>> list) >> >>> and are then given that permission when there is no >> suspicion of >> >>> planned vandalism? It could also have the effect of >> creation of a >> >>> community (and a way to address editors). Although >> there seem >> >>> to be >> >>> plenty of book editors and new members, I think it >> would >> >>> benefit Open >> >>> Library to have more than a couple of people who know >> how >> >>> things work >> >>> around OL and who also interact via email. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks for your reply! >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Ben >> >>> >> >>> [1] Bios of (former) IA employees: >> >>> <http://archive.org/about/bios.php> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Ol-tech mailing list >> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >>> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech >> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> >>> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Ol-tech mailing list >> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >>> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech >> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> >>> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Ol-tech mailing list >> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> >> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Ol-tech mailing list >> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> >> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ol-tech mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > >> >> -- >> Karen Coyle >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://kcoyle.net >> ph: 1-510-540-7596 <tel:1-510-540-7596> >> m: 1-510-435-8234 <tel:1-510-435-8234> >> skype: kcoylenet >> _______________________________________________ >> Ol-tech mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Etiamsi omnes, ego non >> > > -- > Karen Coyle > [email protected] http://kcoyle.net > ph: 1-510-540-7596 > m: 1-510-435-8234 > skype: kcoylenet > _______________________________________________ > Ol-tech mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ Ol-tech mailing list [email protected] http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [email protected]
