For a good, consise, defintion of what a muscle car is, by vehicle model and make, go here:

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-definition.shtml

There may be a few surprises.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
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----- Original Message ----- From: "77w30" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:52 AM
Subject: RE: 442 Achieva


It's a opinion and for me hell no. if that's the case a Toyota supra is a
muscle car, even a Hyundai sonata qualifies than
Ron


rodney fama OCA #033098
1969 cutlass s
1969 442 north carolinia car
1969 442 cali car. assembly required stay away from www.calicars.cc what a
hassle.
1972 cutlass convertable
1976 phx y-76 arizona regional car. assy. required
1977 cutlass supreme  (3)
1986 honda shadow vt 1100c  cruiser
1987 cutlass supreme
1989 chevy k-2500 4*4 pick up
1991 yamaha warrior atv
1994 chevy  caprice 9c-1 police pkg
732-986-6388 cell
732-254-9500 wk 2 pm best time to call week days
web site. shows disc brake conversion using 79 trans am rear disc on my 77
cutlass,and my 77 restoration project, along with other toys

http://home.comcast.net/~77w30442/wsb/html/view.cgi-contact.html-.html

http://home.comcast.net/~77w30442/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-MerchantID-2
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Vahabzadeh
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 442 Achieva

At 05:13 PM 6/3/06 -0400, ron wrote:
Okay you feel that 4 cyl hunk of junk is comparable to a 442. how about I
swap you the  front wheel hunk of junk we have at the shop for a nice 69
442.
Since it ranks right up there.
Just think how cool it would look with 60 series tires in the rear and 50's
up front for traction.
The noise the of the timeing chain guids rattling after 80,000 miles. And the 1-1/8 split in the rear for that fake dual exhaust look while it idles
so rough do being worn out. Where my 442 idled rough do to the cam choice.
Lets not forget the oil it burns do to clogged pcv system.
At changing the starter is not a problem due to exhaust .the intake is just
in the way. Lol
But it's a 442


Well, I'm not saying it wouldn't have its issues, but then, many cars do.
Also, think of the era when that engine was developed, and when the car
came out.

Would I prefer a Calais 442 FWD to a real RWD one, even the relatively
anemic 307 versions?  Hell no!  But, does the Calais 442 FWD qualify to be
considered a musclecar?  Well, maybe yes.

- Joe Vahabadeh




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