[Winona Online Democracy]
On Friday, April 6, 2001, at 12:20 , Steve Schild Winona Online
Democracy inscribed into gold:
> If I correctly understand Lori Baumgardt�s April 5 posting and the
> article
> reprinted therein, the point is this: People who don�t accept
> homosexuality
> must be ignorant. You can tell, because they don�t spell or write well.
I have always found it interesting; the way persons refuse to deal with
their own personal shortcomings. Right here is a nice example of that.
"Hey, this post makes me look bad in a way. I cannot deal with that
fact! I guess I will start acting like a dictionary and start defining
words using literal definitions rather than perceived definitions. If I
do that I will make the person look really stupid!"
(note to self... 10 emails from people that did not understand the
sarcasm there.)
Ignorant being a personal opinion that a way of thinking is flawed or
otherwise, improper.
> So, to apply the same logic (and I use the term �logic� very loosely
> here),
> are people who accept homosexuality ignorant, too, if they don�t spell
> or
> write well? If you wonder why I ask, check Dwayne Voegeli�s April 5
> posting.
> Then ask yourself if Mr. Voegeli, a schoolteacher who wrote in to agree
> with
> Ms. Baumgardt, is ignorant because he doesn�t correctly spell
> �difference� or
> the preposition �to.� I trust that Ms. Baumgardt, Mr. Voegeli, and the
> authors
> of the article reprinted in Ms. Baumgardt�s posting are less likely to
> equate
> their own errors with ignorance than they are to do so with errors made
> by
> those with whom they disagree.
Oh no! Look, it is a writing mistake! Everyone run for your lives! One
writing mistake does not necessarily make a person ignorant, just as
speeling a word incorrectly does not necessarily make a person ignorant.
Why waste your time pointing out such trivial details? I could spend all
day documenting mistakes posted on email lists but that would prove
nothing. Since the last time I checked many including myself, considered
email to be informal.
> A related point: Not long ago someone was thrown off this list for
> calling
> someone else a �twit.� The article reprinted in Ms. Baumgardt�s posting
> is
> nothing more than name-calling by another name. If Online Democracy�s
> goal is
> to encourage and nurture debate, to get people to speak to and listen
> to one
> another, to try to understand rather than to try to win, then
> participants on
> the list should use better judgment--and more kindness--than is shown
> in the
> article in Ms. Baumgart�s posting.
> Steve Schild
What is gay bashing? Nothing more than name calling, but I suppose that
is acceptable being that it is being stated by a group of people afraid
to deal with persons differently than themselves. [End commentary as
this clearly is documenting hypocrisy and people really cannot deal with
their own hypocrisy as that would force them to enter uncharted
territory or would make them look bad in front of their bigot buddies]
(the prior comment about hypocrisy is meant as a very broad comment no
one person is included by that, but I will probably receive 50 emails
stating that they where offended even though it did not mention anyone
person/group)
It also is called moral to engage in such crusades. It�s too bad a
certain portion of a certain flavour of religion does not follow their
own principles� this world would be much better if it did.
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