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"Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the
argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
--William Pitt
>From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Online Dem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Winona] an adults perspective of search
>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:12:26 -0500
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>[Winona Online Democracy]
>
>To assume that every student at Columbine High school now advocates the
>usage of insulting invasive searches is quite ridiculous. Examine this
>thread quite closely, not one person has issues with the same aspect of
>the school violence issue. Assuming that because someone was in the same
>building as a shooting that this person will instantly convert to a
>given set of thinking is a bit [just a teeny bit] off the mark. That is
>like saying the everyone who was in a certain building in Oklahoma is
>an advocate of the death penalty. The media/press may display
>exclusively** pro-death penalty persons but that does not mean everyone
>in that building advocates the death penalty as the same applies to a
>Columbine High School.
>**(My observation, I may have missed an exception)
>
>Furthermore, it could be argued that the shooting was a direct result of
>the conformist nature that has been instilled into the schools. It has
>been observed by many that any cog that does not conform to a specific
>set of guidelines is instantly out-casted.
>
>I have also thought it to be humorous how DARE preaches resistance to
>peer pressure for drug usage while the schools compromise that vary
>message by manipulating students to pressure other students to conform
>to a given standard and other half baked solutions. This almost looks
>like a no-brainer. Who will win in a student versus school argument?
>
>Again, I will reiterate this, setting up metal detectors will not
>prevent violence. If someone wants to shoot the school up / blow the
>school up; they will. There is no changing that. Setting up the metal
>detectors is only a superficial idea that would only act as a means of
>something to be planned around when plotting out an act of violence.
>Furthermore, the recent round of get tough on youth that commit acts of
>violence is farfetched and going beyond what is necessary.
>
>Why is it throughout history when the choice has been made for security
>versus rights security has always won? (Security from violence, job
>security, national security) Perhaps it is time to re-examine these
>priorities. (Reference: WWI, WWII, 1920 s, 1950 s, 1960 s; also see FBI
>involvement during these periods; the Committee of Un- American
>Activities, shall I continue digging?)
>
>
>David Dittmann
>
>
>On Monday, June 4, 2001, at 01:25 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>[Winona Online Democracy]
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>>Mr. Thompson seems to return to his one overriding theme here, that the
>>change of violence happening at any given school is rare and therefore
>>there is little or no need
>>for security. I wonder how many students in Littleton, Colorado felt
>>that way until one fateful April afternoon in 1999?
>>Dean
>
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