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The relevant policy can be found here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ - Sam Ruby On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Ian Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: > On 16 June 2011 12:00, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:47 AM, IngridvdM <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > I am really in favor of going without anyone being named leader or >> manager >> > or any name that could create the impression that this person has more >> > rights than the others. Maybe we can choose 'contact' as a neutral >> > description in case something turns out to be needed? Or is there even a >> > more neutral word? >> >> The only 'contact' that people need for this project is >> [email protected]. >> >> If this list grows too large or too busy, then we can create >> additional 'contacts' in the form of more mailing lists. > > > OK, sounds sensible to try using what already exists until there is a good > reason not too :-) > > Let me test the system ;-) > > Alexandro Colorado and myself (both been involved with the OOo community for > years) have been negotiating with a large training company to provide a > community backed certification for OOo but with a vector to potentially 1500 > centres. I previously sought and was granted permission by Oracle to use the > OOo branding on certificates. I guess we need community consensus here now, > to carry on with that. There is quite a long history to all this and I > declare a financial interest. I set up a UK government accredited awarding > organisation (The Learning Machine Ltd) to enable a mechanism for funding > FOSS and CC education development that was independent of licensing ie the > business model is QA so no problem licensing any supporting stuff freely. > > To get started required investment so the only way to do that was to set up > a for profit and sell shares. That together with EU grants has put well over > £1m of investment into this. We have had some successes such as schools that > started using our generic certification with MS products that have now > switched to OOo. I can get the FOSS voice heard in influential government > places. The strategy is in general to be product neutral but to use FOSS for > all exemplars and supporting materials. This gives us a channel to get > closed source users at least in contact with FOSS so there is a clear > marketing strategy. With OOo certification we can say eg the WP certificate > was achieved in the context of OOo Writer and put an OOo logo on the > certificate. The assessment criteria are generic so we could do the same > with LibO, Koffice etc. or indeed any FOSS software project, Inkscape, Gimp, > Audacity etc. WE could even do professional Apache qualifications if there > was a demand. Once we work out delivery costs (Its variable and depends on > volume) we give a kick back to community funds in return for using the > branding. We have the infrastructure in place using a LAMP stack for > assessment and certification and Drupal for community support with dynamic > links between the 2. Portal is at www.theingots.org. The acronym INGOT is > International Grades - Open Technologies. > > We are accredited by Ofqual the UK national exam regulators and endorsed by > the UK Sector Skills Council for Business and IT. All our qualifications are > referenced to the European Qualifications Framework. We have 2 EU Transfer > of innovation projects and we are monitored by all these so the community > can have some confidence that we "know what we are doing". My background is > that I was a UK School Inspection Team leader and assessor of the National > Professional Qualification for Headteachers. > > So what I'm asking for is permission to use the OOo Trademark and general > community support. > > Trying to keep this reasonably short so please feel free to ask any > questions. > > -- > Ian > > Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) > > www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 > > The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, > Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and > Wales. >
