On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: > Just in case other folks missed the tie-in between the different threads: > branding and trademark policy for all Apache projects is handled on the > privately archived tradema...@apache.org mailing list. Apache policy is set > by the VP, Brand Management and the associated officer's committee, and > implementation of the policy details is left up to each project's (P)PMC. > > Sam pointed to the main trademark policy document below; at some point once > this project has more of the website migrated to Apache infrastructure, > folks will want to review the Apache Project Branding Requirements for > things that need to be on the project website. > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs > > So the decision on licensing Apache marks for things like certification is > made between the VP, Brand Management and the project's (P)PMC. Note that > we have specific policies for domains and events, and I believe the ASF will > need to further codify and document policies for services and third party > certifications in the future. > > Note also that Oracle's intent is indeed to assign all OOo related > trademarks to the ASF, although the legal paperwork is not yet complete. > Thus, we can't actually license any uses of the OOo marks quite yet. 8-) >
OK. Thanks for the background info, Shane. Will the PPMC be notified when the trademark transfer has been completed, so we can further discuss Ian's request? -Rob > - Shane > > On 6/16/2011 8:48 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> >> Reposting with a new subject line, and copying the appropriate >> trademark's mailing list. >> >> The relevant policy can be found here: >> >> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ >> >> - Sam Ruby >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Ian Lynch<ianrly...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 16 June 2011 12:00, Sam Ruby<ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:47 AM, IngridvdM<ingrid...@gmx-topmail.de> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am really in favor of going without anyone being named leader or >>>> >>>> manager >>>>> >>>>> or any name that could create the impression that this person has more >>>>> rights than the others. Maybe we can choose 'contact' as a neutral >>>>> description in case something turns out to be needed? Or is there even >>>>> a >>>>> more neutral word? >>>> >>>> The only 'contact' that people need for this project is >>>> ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org. >>>> >>>> If this list grows too large or too busy, then we can create >>>> additional 'contacts' in the form of more mailing lists. >>> >>> >>> OK, sounds sensible to try using what already exists until there is a >>> good >>> reason not too :-) >>> >>> Let me test the system ;-) >>> >>> Alexandro Colorado and myself (both been involved with the OOo community >>> for >>> years) have been negotiating with a large training company to provide a >>> community backed certification for OOo but with a vector to potentially >>> 1500 >>> centres. I previously sought and was granted permission by Oracle to use >>> the >>> OOo branding on certificates. I guess we need community consensus here >>> now, >>> to carry on with that. There is quite a long history to all this and I >>> declare a financial interest. I set up a UK government accredited >>> awarding >>> organisation (The Learning Machine Ltd) to enable a mechanism for funding >>> FOSS and CC education development that was independent of licensing ie >>> the >>> business model is QA so no problem licensing any supporting stuff freely. >>> >>> To get started required investment so the only way to do that was to set >>> up >>> a for profit and sell shares. That together with EU grants has put well >>> over >>> £1m of investment into this. We have had some successes such as schools >>> that >>> started using our generic certification with MS products that have now >>> switched to OOo. I can get the FOSS voice heard in influential government >>> places. The strategy is in general to be product neutral but to use FOSS >>> for >>> all exemplars and supporting materials. This gives us a channel to get >>> closed source users at least in contact with FOSS so there is a clear >>> marketing strategy. With OOo certification we can say eg the WP >>> certificate >>> was achieved in the context of OOo Writer and put an OOo logo on the >>> certificate. The assessment criteria are generic so we could do the same >>> with LibO, Koffice etc. or indeed any FOSS software project, Inkscape, >>> Gimp, >>> Audacity etc. WE could even do professional Apache qualifications if >>> there >>> was a demand. Once we work out delivery costs (Its variable and depends >>> on >>> volume) we give a kick back to community funds in return for using the >>> branding. We have the infrastructure in place using a LAMP stack for >>> assessment and certification and Drupal for community support with >>> dynamic >>> links between the 2. Portal is at www.theingots.org. The acronym INGOT is >>> International Grades - Open Technologies. >>> >>> We are accredited by Ofqual the UK national exam regulators and endorsed >>> by >>> the UK Sector Skills Council for Business and IT. All our qualifications >>> are >>> referenced to the European Qualifications Framework. We have 2 EU >>> Transfer >>> of innovation projects and we are monitored by all these so the community >>> can have some confidence that we "know what we are doing". My background >>> is >>> that I was a UK School Inspection Team leader and assessor of the >>> National >>> Professional Qualification for Headteachers. >>> >>> So what I'm asking for is permission to use the OOo Trademark and general >>> community support. >>> >>> Trying to keep this reasonably short so please feel free to ask any >>> questions. >>> >>> -- >>> Ian >>> >>> Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) >>> >>> www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 >>> >>> The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, >>> Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and >>> Wales. >>> > >
