On 06/27/2011 07:58 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Kay Schenk<[email protected]> wrote:
On 06/27/2011 05:28 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
Assuming we're not trying for a "big bang" migration where we move
everything at once, it seems we have two main approaches:
1) Assign existing OpenOffice.org DNS to Apache now. For services
which we have not yet migrated to Apache we redirect back to Oracle's
server, by IP address. As additional services are migrated to Apache,
we remove redirects.
Well given the state of the project as it exists today in the Apache
environment, I think this is fraught with MANY problems. What is "up" on
Apache right now is really insignificant compared to what is available via
OpenOffice.org. I think before doing this, we'd need to make a VERY
comprehensive mapping list of what would be going where.
I don't mean to overburden everyone with "details", but I think a
"migration plan" complete with "areas" and timeframes might be in order.
This would be useful to determine scope as well as creating a reasonable
schedule.
Someone would spend a LOT of time maintaining the redirect business.
I'm concerned with acccess "blips" given this approach. Timing is
everything.
Additionally, some people, like me, have edit (committer) rights on parts
of the OpenOffice web server to continue to make changes (if only
informative) and no similar rights on Apache. Right now, I'm not doing much
except trying to keep some reasonable info about the move updated on the
OpenOffice.org site on some of the primary pages. But...I really have NO
idea what others with commit rights are doing on that server at the moment.
This would be interesting to find out.
I havent been able to do any commits to the site yet, but I also wonder what
is the status of this current site. Is there going to be any SSI? Who
choosed that template?
Not sure how to answer this since I don't even know if it HAS a
template. ????
Since I know little about kenai, I don't know anything about it handles
templates, but the site looks pretty much the same as it did before the
move.
How can I go about it to change it and if it's good
idea to simply change it as please.
The site uses ssh+svn (svn with ssh tunneling) see:
http://kenai.com/projects/help/pages/SourceControl
You need your own private ssh key uploaded through your OO.o private key.
If you have your own OO.o ID and login, you should be able to see what
projects you are a member of and what rights you have to them.
Sound a bit rookish questions but also wonder what is the direction of that
site.
Well...it's my understanding that eventually it will cease to exist, at
some point yet to be determined. Thus, we need to put whatever effort we
can into this new Apache endeavor.
2) Do it in the opposite direction: DNS goes to Oracle's servers and
they redirect to Apache for services that we've migrated. As services
are migrated we ask Oracle to add additional requests. When
everything is migrated then we switch over the DNS.
This seems like a better idea with less redirection for the time being.
However, this puts control in Oracle's court which may not be desirable.
#1 seems a lot cleaner to me, and requires less coordination with
Oracle. We control the DNS, redirects and generally set the pace of
migration. But are there protocols beyond http/https that we need to
worry about? For example, any ftp, smtp, nntp, etc. that would
complicate things?
If we can agree on the general approach I don't see why we couldn't
start some migration this week. Bugzilla, for example, seems to be a
straightforward.
Well this particular area seems OK. :)
Really I will do some work via the wiki this week to augment the list on
the wiki from my perspective on what needs to be done.
-Rob
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MzK
"He's got that New Orleans thing crawling all over him, that good stuff,
that 'We Are the Champions', to hell with the rest and
I'll just start over kind of attitude."
-- "1 Dead in the Attic", Chris Rose
