On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jun 27, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Kay Schenk <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On 06/27/2011 07:58 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> > >>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Kay Schenk<[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> On 06/27/2011 05:28 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Assuming we're not trying for a "big bang" migration where we move > >>>>> everything at once, it seems we have two main approaches: > >>>>> > >>>>> 1) Assign existing OpenOffice.org DNS to Apache now. For services > >>>>> which we have not yet migrated to Apache we redirect back to Oracle's > >>>>> server, by IP address. As additional services are migrated to > Apache, > >>>>> we remove redirects. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Well given the state of the project as it exists today in the Apache > >>>> environment, I think this is fraught with MANY problems. What is "up" > on > >>>> Apache right now is really insignificant compared to what is available > >>>> via > >>>> OpenOffice.org. I think before doing this, we'd need to make a VERY > >>>> comprehensive mapping list of what would be going where. > >>>> I don't mean to overburden everyone with "details", but I think a > >>>> "migration plan" complete with "areas" and timeframes might be in > order. > >>>> This would be useful to determine scope as well as creating a > reasonable > >>>> schedule. > >>>> > >>>> Someone would spend a LOT of time maintaining the redirect business. > >>>> I'm concerned with acccess "blips" given this approach. Timing is > >>>> everything. > >>>> > >>>> Additionally, some people, like me, have edit (committer) rights on > parts > >>>> of the OpenOffice web server to continue to make changes (if only > >>>> informative) and no similar rights on Apache. Right now, I'm not doing > >>>> much > >>>> except trying to keep some reasonable info about the move updated on > the > >>>> OpenOffice.org site on some of the primary pages. But...I really have > NO > >>>> idea what others with commit rights are doing on that server at the > >>>> moment. > >>>> This would be interesting to find out. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I havent been able to do any commits to the site yet, but I also wonder > >>> what > >>> is the status of this current site. Is there going to be any SSI? Who > >>> choosed that template? > >>> > >> > >> Not sure how to answer this since I don't even know if it HAS a > template. > >> ???? > >> > >> Since I know little about kenai, I don't know anything about it handles > >> templates, but the site looks pretty much the same as it did before the > >> move. > >> > >> > >> How can I go about it to change it and if it's good > >> > >>> idea to simply change it as please. > >>> > >> > >> The site uses ssh+svn (svn with ssh tunneling) see: > >> http://kenai.com/projects/help/pages/SourceControl > >> > >> You need your own private ssh key uploaded through your OO.o private > key. > >> > >> If you have your own OO.o ID and login, you should be able to see what > >> projects you are a member of and what rights you have to them. > >> > >> > >> > >>> Sound a bit rookish questions but also wonder what is the direction of > >>> that > >>> site. > >>> > >> > >> Well...it's my understanding that eventually it will cease to exist, at > >> some point yet to be determined. Thus, we need to put whatever effort we > can > >> into this new Apache endeavor. > > > > > > Sorry Kay, I know the Kenai layout, I was asking about Apache-OOo new > site: > > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ > > > > I think this one is set up here: > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/site/trunk/ > > > > It seems to have some perl(?) scripts: > > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/site/trunk/lib/view.pm?revision=1137122&view=markup > > > > Not sure if its using a framework or just random perl scripts holding > things > > somewhat automated. From what I see there are some Templates setup: > > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/site/trunk/templates/skeleton.html?revision=1137122&view=markup > > That is the template. The css is here: > incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/css/ooo.css > What about the rest of the questions: - Do/Will apache.ooo have SSI (PHP/Python/Ruby/Ruby backend)? - What is the direction of this site? - Who decided on this template? > > Regards, > Dave > > > On Kenai, it did had the tigris template, which we drag from Collabnet, > and > > the CSS had some major change to it spreading it across 6 different > > stylesheets (before it was only one). And there were of course a template > > use on most of the projects. BizDev and Education tried a tableless CSS > > which never made it to production. > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> 2) Do it in the opposite direction: DNS goes to Oracle's servers and > >>>>> they redirect to Apache for services that we've migrated. As > services > >>>>> are migrated we ask Oracle to add additional requests. When > >>>>> everything is migrated then we switch over the DNS. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> This seems like a better idea with less redirection for the time > being. > >>>> However, this puts control in Oracle's court which may not be > desirable. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> #1 seems a lot cleaner to me, and requires less coordination with > >>>>> Oracle. We control the DNS, redirects and generally set the pace of > >>>>> migration. But are there protocols beyond http/https that we need to > >>>>> worry about? For example, any ftp, smtp, nntp, etc. that would > >>>>> complicate things? > >>>>> > >>>>> If we can agree on the general approach I don't see why we couldn't > >>>>> start some migration this week. Bugzilla, for example, seems to be a > >>>>> straightforward. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Well this particular area seems OK. :) > >>>> > >>>> Really I will do some work via the wiki this week to augment the list > on > >>>> the wiki from my perspective on what needs to be done. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -Rob > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> MzK > >>>> > >>>> "He's got that New Orleans thing crawling all over him, that good > stuff, > >>>> that 'We Are the Champions', to hell with the rest and > >>>> I'll just start over kind of attitude." > >>>> -- "1 Dead in the Attic", Chris Rose > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> MzK > >> > >> "He's got that New Orleans thing crawling all over him, that good stuff, > >> that 'We Are the Champions', to hell with the rest and > >> I'll just start over kind of attitude." > >> -- "1 Dead in the Attic", Chris Rose > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > *Alexandro Colorado* > > *OpenOffice.org* Español > > http://es.openoffice.org > > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
