Hi Thorsten,

Am 04.07.2011 09:32, schrieb Thorsten Behrens:
Ross Gardler wrote:
At present the only way I can see to start doing this is to a) drop
the ego on both "sides", this is a different world from the one in
which the fork was seen as necessary. There are still fundamental
licence differences, but I am sure that, for many, the licence is less
important than getting results. b) spending some time understanding
one another (for some that will mean rebuilding relationships) in
order to work towards your second suggestion...

Hi Ross,

hm, not sure I like your particular combination of a) and b) here -
understanding the other side should start with admitting that indeed
for a not insubstantial subset of LibreOffice hackers, the license
indeed *is* important. ;)

I don't know OOo or LO well enough to know if there is scope for a
"common, well-defined cooperative objective." It would be great if
some people could spend some time considering this. It might well be
that there is little scope for true collaboration. However, during the
proposal phase there were a few people who wanted to explore this.

To be frank - having two projects targetting the ~same {market,
devs, QA, sponsors, code lines, ...} makes this extra-hard. It's
like asking two boys in a dog fight to both voluntarily step back&
shake hands - whereas in reality, it'll likely only stop after one
side has "won" (for some values of "win" and "reality").

 From the earlier discussions, the idea to focus on basis
libraries/functionality at Apache, and build applications on top of
that had some appeal to me - also since it appeared to be much more
in line with (most of) the other Apache projects.

Is there any offer for cooperation from the LibreOffice/TDF side in your words?

Kind regards,
Ingrid

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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