Hi Peter, For your lazy consensus, when is the expiration at which time you propose to act?
Also, because this is a matter involving legalities, I'm not sure lazy consensus works here. We need to check with the trademark-policy folks to understand what the ceremony is. I suspect that any permission must come from them, not one of us. But they may want the recommendation of the PPMC, which is what the lazy consensus would then be for. It may be that the publisher does not require specific permission from us: See <http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#booktitle>. But if they do, or if as a publisher they are wary of not having an explicit agreement, I think it needs to come from an officer of ASF. Since this is our first try at this, I have copied the trademarks@ address. - Dennis HMMM... Also, and this is probably not the right time for this (especially for OpenOffice.org 3.3), we might want to come up with a request (or requirement?) that publishers include a link to locations under our support where current information, updates, and support about OpenOffice.org can be found. (That would be separate from links the publisher might provide for updates on their book and on the 10,000+ templates that are provided on the DVD.) We also, now that I think about it, need to provide information in our distros and maybe for use in print, about the availability of source code for a specific release and for information on source code for other releases, including the latest. [I think I will flag these two as notes-to-self for something we need to pay attention to. The specific source-code-availability requirement may not be so strict under ALv2 and Apache practice, in contrast with the LGPL requirement. It seems like a great thing to perpetuate, regardless. It is another reason to keep the openoffice.org domain name operating because of linking from material in print as well as on-line.] -----Original Message----- From: Peter Junge [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 09:33 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [Proposal] Give the BHV publishing house in Kaarst/Germany the permission to use the OpenOffice.org trademark and logo Hi, I would like to propose --*seeking lazy consensus*-- that the BHV publishing GmbH, Novesiastrasse 60, D-41564 Kaarst (Germany) is permitted to use the OpenOffice.org logo and trademark for their book (in preparation) "OpenOffice.org 3.3 für Ein- und Umsteiger" [1] [2], means something like "OOo 3.3 for beginners and people who are migrating" in English. This package includes a handbook (printed and eBook) and a DVD with the OOo binaries. The OOo logo and trademark would be used on the book cover, within the book and on the label of the DVD. BHV has been publishing similar books for previous versions of OOo for many years, e.g. [3]. I would like to advocate granting the OOo logo usage to BHV, as such books foster the public visibility of OOo. Mr. Ralf Kraft, representing BHV (nit subscribed to this ML) is on CC. (NOTE: The mock-up of the cover is still using the old OOo logo, but I already have been pointing out to Mr. Kraft that using the latest logo [4] would be preferred.) Best regards, Peter [1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8268859/OpenOfficeSkribble.jpg [2] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8268859/PI-OpenOfficeV33Pro.odt (including ISBN code) [3] http://www.amazon.de/dp/3826673476?m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&tag=idealoversand-21 [4] http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#logo
