On 9/2/2011 10:23 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
Hi Dale;
With due respect to Italy's cultural richness (which I so
much admire being italian myself but not only because of that),
Neapolitan is classified as a dialect, not a language, for
good reasons.
Compared to standard italian you use the same character set
and gramatical rules. Furthermore the computer related terms
that OpenOffice uses are the same as in standard italian.
My recomendation is just to add a dictionary with Naepolitan
terms to the standard italian dictionary.
best regards,
Pedro,
Spoken like a true northern Italian bigot... with all due respect.
Please note I did not call you a northern Italian bigot... I said you speak
like one. Maybe you are just misinformed.
I agree that Neapolitan is a dialect because by definition a dialect is a
LANGUAGE which is not the principal language of the country in which it is
spoken and it is relegated to a particular region of that country. But it
IS a language and is recognized as such by Wikipedia and by the Italian
Province of Catania and has a rich literary presence spanning several
centuries. For a brief time, from 1442 to 1458, Neapolitan was the official
language of the Kingdom of Naples. It was supplanted by the Tuscan of Dante
and Boccaccio which by 1500 had become the accepted literary language of
Italy and generally referred to as Italian, but there was no official
language called Italian until the unification of Italy. Although the
official date of the unification is 1849, the Kingdom of Naples did not
become part of the Kingdom of Italy until 1861. At that time Naples was
possibly the richest city in the world and it was at this point that 80
million ducats were removed from the Bank of Naples and moved to the Bank of
Italy causing the collapse of the entire southern Italian economy. It also
gave rise to a bigotry in northern Italy which empowered them to deride the
southern Italians because of their poverty (which they, the northerners, had
caused). For this reason, it became unfashionable to speak Neapolitan.
They call it the unification of Italy. I call it the rape of Naples.
As for having the same character set as Italian, so does French, Spanish,
Portughese, Rumanian and English. Are they also dialects? Of course not.
And Neapolitan has its own grammar, too. There may be some similarities to
Italian grammar, just as there are in French, Spanish, Portughese and any
other Romance language. Here are but a few Neapolitan Grammar books:
GRAMMATICA DEL DIALETTO NAPOLETANO
compilata dal Dottor Raffaele Capozzoli;
Luigi Chiurazzi Editore, 1889
'A LENGUA 'E PULECENELLA - GRAMMATICA NAPOLETANA
Carlo Iandolo;
Franco di Mauro Editore, 1994
IL NAPOLETANO PARLATO E SCRITTO Con Note di grammatica storica
Nicola De Blasi - Luigi Imperatore;
Libreria Dante& Descartes, 2000
FACILE FACILE - Impariama la lingua napoletana - Grammatica
Colomba Rosaria Andolfi;
Kairos Edizioni - Napoli, 2008
MODERN NEAPOLITAN GRAMMAR - GRAMMATICA NAPOLETANA ODIERNA
D. Erwin - M. T. Fedele
Lulu Press, 2011
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Dale Erwin
Lurigancho, Lima 15 PERU
http://leather.casaerwin.org
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