On Sep 13, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> > wrote: >> I have posted a draft for review on the wiki and below. Changes and >> improvements can be made on the Wiki page. If you propose to modify the >> page, please make it known here so that collisions can be avoided. >> >> Suggestions here will be selectively incorporated into the Wiki page. The >> deadline is Wednesday, 2011-09-14. >> >> - Dennis >> >> *** INITIAL DRAFT BEING REVIEWED BY PODLING: >> >> * OpenOffice.org entered incubation 2011-06-13. >> >> OpenOffice.org is an open-source, office-document productivity suite >> providing six productivity applications based around the OpenDocument Format >> (ODF). OpenOffice.org is released on multiple platforms. Its localizations >> support 110 languages worldwide. >> >> * Most important to address >> >> 1) Migration of the legacy OpenOffice.org website's content and services to >> Apache infrastructure, including defect tracking, wiki, forums, mailing >> lists, and cross-service registration using customized software not already >> supported by Apache projects and infrastructure. Successful negotiation of >> governance migration of user-supported services brought under incubation. >> >> 2) Completion of the IP-review portions of the incubation checklist, which >> will require getting an amended SGA from Oracle to cover additional source >> files; scrubbing of incompatible notices from SGA-licensed code and >> resolving provenance of other existing materials being migrated. >> >> 3) A Successful Podling Release >> >> * Issues for IPMC or ASF Board Awareness >> >> The code base pulled over from OpenOffice.org is undergoing development >> while incompatible notices remain on the granted code. This is separate >> from the scrubbing of dependencies on incompatibly-licensed material. >> RECOMMENDATION: Continue OpenOffice monthly reporting for another quarter >> while IP cleanup is pending. >> >> The current committers are not equipped to fully resource the migration of >> OpenOffice.org sites and services under Apache OOo incubation. Preservation >> of the Wiki is in doubt because of resource and support limitations. >> Cutover of mailing-list and registration/forwarding systems is not resourced >> at all. The ability to make anticipatory modifications of OpenOffice.org in >> preparation for staging is also limited, with volunteer support and >> administration of the live system possibly eroding. >> >> Discussions with contributors of current user-oriented documentation have >> broken off; it is likely that the status quo will continue to be with >> user-guide contributions made separately and under licenses the authors >> prefer. This is not an immediate issue unless replacement with ALv2 >> licensed materials is urgent. Having updated user-guides reflecting details >> and features of future Apache releases is worrisome. >> > > I think the above misses the point of this section of the report. The > IPMC and the ASF Board are not project managers overseeing the > progress of the podling's work. They are not concerned about > "resourcing" the effort. That is our concern, the PPMC. We need to > deal with it. > > This should be the place to raise any issues that we have that the ASF > Board or IPMC can actually deal with. Merely noting that work is hard > is not really a useful insight.
I agree with Rob. BTW - I have asked Infra about splitting the podling site so that it is easy for a casual observer to understand which part is intended for openoffice.org and which is not. No replies yet. I don't understand why the board needs to be aware that we are working out these issues as that is implicit in any podling. That is for the status page. >> * Community development progress >> >> As of 2011-09-12 there are 72 committers, with 55 on the PPMC, up from 71 >> and 52 at last report. Eleven initial committers have failed to submit >> iCLAs and are out of communication. >> >> Discussion is underway with the operators of the existing OpenOffice.org >> forums for migration of the forums into incubation, with adjustment of >> governance to provide appropriate PPMC and Foundation oversight. >> >> An ooo-user incubator mailing list has begun, and there are few >> user-oriented posts and requests so far; any preservation, migration, or >> replacement of other lists remains to be resolved. A Japanese-language ooo- >> incubator list is starting. >> >> A "Building OpenOffice.org for Linux" hackfest was announced on the project >> blog and carried out over the Internet in the first full week of September. >> >> * Project development progress >> >> The OpenOffice.org trademarks have been transferred to Apache. The >> OpenOffice.org domain-name registrations are being transferred to Apache. >> >> The OpenOffice.org Issue Tracking Bugzilla has been moth-balled as read-only >> and an Apache Bugzilla established for continuation of Issue Tracking under >> the podling. >> >> The main code base has been transferred to Apache SVN and is being actively >> tested and modified. Merging of additional work spaces from OpenOffice.org, >> and preservation of versioning history is being pursued. The current effort >> is focused on successful build of a counterpart of the last complete build >> at OpenOffice.org. >> >> Test configurations of the OpenOffice.org forum system and the >> OpenOffice.org Wiki have been brought up on Apache infrastructure fixtures. >> Cutover of the forum system is anticipated as part of the OpenOffice.org >> migration. Other services may languish for lack of podling resources. >> >> Detailed planning continues on public wiki: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 07:33 >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: RE: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 >> (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org) >> >> I've started pulling together a skeleton by reviewing the July/August >> reports and accomplishments since. >> >> When I have something on the wiki at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2011 I will put an update on the >> list and request review. >> >> - Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: no-re...@apache.org [mailto:no-re...@apache.org] >> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 07:00 >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 >> (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org) >> >> Dear OpenOffice.org Developers, >> >> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator >> PMC. >> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your >> quarterly >> board report. >> >> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 21 September 2011, 10 am Pacific. >> The report >> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator >> PMC >> requires your report to be submitted one week before the board meeting, to >> allow >> sufficient time for review. >> >> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, >> and >> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you >> should submit your report is one week prior to the board meeting. >> >> Thanks, >> >> The Apache Incubator PMC >> >> Submitting your Report >> ---------------------- >> >> Your report should contain the following: >> >> * Your project name >> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the >> project >> or necessarily of its field >> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards >> graduation. >> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be >> aware of >> * How has the community developed since the last report >> * How has the project developed since the last report. >> >> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at: >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2011 >> >> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this >> page is >> created from a template. >> >> Mentors >> ------- >> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the >> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the >> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator >> PMC. >> >> Incubator PMC >> >>
