<orcmid> I've responded to your questions in-line. </orcmid>
With regard to detail, this is probably the longest report already. For context, look at the complete set of reports so far, <http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2011>. They tend to the terse. Previous monthly reports since the Apache OOo Podling has been reporting are these: <http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011> and <http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2011>. Thanks Don, all of your questions are valuable. - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Donald Whytock [mailto:dwhyt...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:09 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org) I'd like to suggest this be more detailed, so it's clear where the problems are. That way it's easier to determine what ASF can provide that isn't provided already. >>> The current committers are not equipped to fully resource the migration of >>> OpenOffice.org sites and services under Apache OOo incubation. Does "current committers" refer to people working on the Oracle site, or the current pool of committers in the podling? <orcmid> Current committers are the committers on the podling. I can say "podling committers." The IPMC and Board will understand. </orcmid> Does "resource" mean supply time, gain access, provide equipment, have skill? <orcmid> I meant resources in terms of what the Project itself, those of us on the PPMC and ooo-dev, are equipped to bring to bear. I will get the buzzword out of there. It is all of the above except for provide equipment and running platforms. Apache Infrastructure has provided the necessaries. </orcmid> >>> Preservation of the Wiki is in doubt because of resource and support >>> limitations. Is this preservation of the wiki in its current form because the Oracle servers are going away? Preservation of the wiki data because it's not being done in a timely manner? <orcmid> Preservation of the wiki relates to our capability in terms of available expertise. There is a functioning test instance, but some fixes are needed. It is a MediaWiki and there is no identified expertise in server-level and configuration work available to the project. </orcmid> >>> Cutover of mailing-list and registration/forwarding systems >>> is not resourced at all. "Resourced" as in people designated/volunteering to do it, no comparable Apache facility, no plan, no access? <orcmid> Yes on all of that, although Apache facilities are generally not the issue so long as able people volunteering are available to determine what facilities are required. That is a project responsibility. </orcmid> >>> The ability to make anticipatory modifications >>> of OpenOffice.org in preparation for staging is also limited, with >>> volunteer support and administration of the live system possibly eroding. Specific problems with access, skill level, available people, timetable? <orcmid> Yes, and here it has to do with the live site on Oracle systems. Although there is a fear of Oracle pulling the plug, I don't believe that is imminent. On the other hand, working with Oracle for how long there system needs to be up so staging can be risk-managed would be good. That may be happening. It is not visible and I suspect the project needs to identify its needs in a practical way. </orcmid> Am I overestimating what has to be in a podling report? <orcmid> I think precision is called for, and your questions help with that. There's not a lot of quantitative detail. There are no charts, numbers, and roadmaps to point at, though there are proposed pieces on the OOOUSER Wiki. </orcmid> Don
