On Sep 29, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > +1 > > but with reference to the list that indicates a committer who > has been authorized for this project. That is the one Christian > provided, > <http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo>.
I have added this link the podling's people.mdtext page. Updating people.mdtext is considered to be a first step for a new committer, but clearly not everyone has cared to do that update. One advantage of doing so is that it provides each committer experience in using the Apache CMS. > > This list is useful to verify that committers are established and > authorized in the system to be a committer for ooo. > > The entries in bold identify some who might (also) be > mentors/ASF Members. Bold identifies ASF members. Not every member listed is a Mentor. I think though you have to be a Member to be a Mentor although I could be wrong about that. Regards, Dave > > - Dennis > > PS: This index finds all committers and what projects they are authorized > to commit on: <http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html>. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Whytock [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: How do we want to announce new Committers/PPMC members > > Looking at the AOO "people" page > (http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html) I see "some of > our contributors". Is this a list of committers? If so, perhaps new > committers can be announced along the lines of, "The OpenOffice list > of Committers at <URL> has updated with the addition of <name>." Less > laudatory, more PSA. > > If that list on the site isn't of committers, should it be? Or should > there be one, with "other contributors" mentioned? > > Don > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >> A recent press article suggested that this project had not had any new >> committers since the project started. This is false. But it would be >> hard to tell that, looking at our mailing list or website. >> >> So far we've been quiet about new committers. We have the votes, >> process the paper work, etc., on the ooo-private list. >> >> Some Apache projects announce each new committer to their main mailing >> list. Others don't. We're received mixed advice from our mentors. >> >> IMHO, we want to avoid two errors, at the extremes: >> >> 1) A public announcement note for new committers that is read as being >> too congratulatory, one that makes those who are not committers (or >> not yet committers) feel less appreciated. >> >> 2) Total lack of any acknowledgement of new committers/PPMC that leads >> observers to believe that new committers are chosen in a secret >> ceremony involving ceremonial robes, oaths, and animal sacrifices. >> >> An announcement of a new committer should not be surprising. It >> should confirm what any regular observer of the mailing list already >> knows, namely that person X is actively involved in the project and is >> making high quality contributions. So on one hand, acknowledging a new >> committer should not tell you anything that you don't already know. >> >> On the other hand, there is reinforcement value to stating what we >> know, especially for newer members of the project, i.e., the project's >> future committers. >> >> By analogy, I've worked in situations where job promotions were given >> secretly, and people were shy to ever speak of them. It suggested >> that the company could not bear the scrutiny of seeing the inequity of >> hoiw promotions were given out. And I've worked places where >> promotions were announced widely, with a summary of the person's >> recent contributions, reinforcing to the entire team the kinds of >> contributions that could get them -- some day -- a similar promotion. >> >> If we believe that we're doing a good job at selecting new committers >> then we should want this to be known. Transparency shows the fairness >> of the process. >> >> Obviously the context here at Apache is not the same. But I think the >> choices are analogous. >> >> Personally, I'm in favor of a modest announcement to the ooo-dev list >> after a new committer has been elected and have submitted the iCLA. >> >> What do you think? >> >> -Rob >> >
