On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Marcus (OOo) <[email protected]> wrote: > Am 10/25/2011 07:58 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: >> >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Dave Fisher<[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> I wonder if this is too technically detailed. >>> >>> Since the recipient is a ML user that impact should be noted near the >>> top. >>> >>> The information about what the ASF / podling process is all about should >>> be at the end. >>> >> >> The feedback we received when we sent an earlier list migration note >> to the users and discuss list, after we initially set up ooo-users, >> was along the lines of "Who the hell are you and why is this the first >> we are hearing about the migration?". That is why I put the >> introductory ASF stuff at the top, to put it in context. >> >> Of course, doing that could lead people to ignore the note, thinking >> there is nothing important in it. So that's why I started by saying >> the note was important. But I realize that that itself could increase >> the chance of the email being ignored, since emails that say they are >> important rarely are. >> >> So how can we have both an good intro as well as get a high response rate? > > There will be always a number of people that will not do what you (we) would > expect. So, we should try to make it best as possible. IMHO the draft is > that. > >> Maybe split this into two emails, and space them a week apart? So one >> email that is the intro, gives the background on the Incubation, the >> migration effort, etc. Short and sweet. They might actually read it. >> Then follow a week later with "As we previously mentioned in our note >> last week.... We're starting the list migration now. To join the new >> list you will need to...." >> >> Would that be better? > > Maybe. But then the first mail should contain something like "... today we > want to explain who we are, where the OOo project is going to and what will > happen with this ML in x days. A second mail will be sent with more details > and techncial stuff ...". >
We can also use the initial email to prompt the discussion on whether there is sufficient interest for an NL list. Requesting a new list can take 1 or 2 weeks, so we do need some lead time for this, An initial note could be useful for that purpose. >>> Information here to go to find out about AOOo release plans would be >>> helpful. A wiki page with updates. >>> >> >> We have a release plan? I suppose we can put a placeholder page. >> >>> A link to the ooo blog. >>> >> >> Good idea. > > Yes, some more links for the normal user. > >> Maybe also include on every post a link to the ooo-dev and ooo-users >> lists, since those are our main ones. > > Marcus > > > >>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>>> On the wiki here: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Email+Migration+Post >>>> >>>> Feel free to make changes directly on the wiki, or suggest them as >>>> responses to this note. I don't think we want to overburden the >>>> reader with a recitation of migration facts, but instead motivate them >>>> to take the desired actions. But since this will be for many the >>>> first note they officially receive from the PPMC, it should probably >>>> have some introductory information, and a welcome and invitation to >>>> get involved (stay involved) with the project. >>>> >>>> -Rob >
