On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: >> Rob speaketh, >> >> ... let's admit that almost all of the 500,000 openoffice.org >> addresses are unused or were created by spammers and have zero >> relevancy to the project. >> >> So, what is "almost all" of 500,000, and how can it be determined? How many >> are left? >> > > If you run a report on the BZ instance you see only 8700 or so unique > ID's have ever been used for submitting defects. So 83% of the > 500,000 ID's are irrelevant from the perspective of BZ. Maybe the > remaining 420,000 users are furiously editing the wiki, but somehow I > doubt that as well. >
It was reported off list that my calculation was in error. I lost a digit some place. 8746 accounts have submitted issues in Bugzilla. So given the claimed 500,000 openoffice.org email addresses that have been assigned, that means that 99.99% of them are not involved in reporting defects in BZ. I know that the figure 99.99% sounds like hyperbole, but do the math yourself. > We could narrow that down further by those who are reporters on issues > that are still open and get a more manageable number that could be > send a notification that the openoffice.org mail forwarder is going > away, with instructions on how to reset their email. > > In any case, let's stop with the hysteria of the 500,000 accounts. > That has no basis in reality. Not even LibreOffice is claiming that > many project participants. > >> It would be more interesting to know how many forwards are happening via >> @openoffice.org over recent times, yes? >> > > The number of forwards is irrelevant from the perspective of the > project. ASF is not in the business of forwarding emails. What is > relevant is our ability to communicate with people who have submitted > defect reports. I think there are far easier ways of accomplishing > this, provided we act diligently and start notifying users that the > forwarding accounts are going away. Remember, the openoffice.org > email address aliases are public. Anyone can create a report of such > user accounts in BZ and send them a note. So no data protection > issues are involved in notifying them that the service is going away. > > -Rob > >> Do you have that information? Can it be obtained? >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rob Weir [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 12:13 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses >> >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Pedro Giffuni <[email protected]> wrote: >>> --- On Tue, 11/1/11, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Questions for the BZ, Forums and MWiki. Is there a way for >>>> people registered in those systems with an @OOo email to >>>> change their address without losing their content? >>>> >>> >>> I won't miss what I never had, but ... >>> >>> For BZ it's easy to change the email address. Just go to >>> Preferences --> Account information. >>> >> >> So is there any way to solve a more constrained problem? In other >> words, let's admit that almost all of the 500,000 openoffice.org >> addresses are unused or were created by spammers and have zero >> relevancy to the project. >> >> Instead, we could look at all new BZ issues created in the last year, >> all forum and wiki members who have logged in in the last year, and >> all ooo-* list members. From those lists, get the list of all those >> with openoffice.org addresses. Send them a note saying that the >> forwarding service is going away. Tell them how to reset their email >> address in the tools. On top of that put a prominent notice on the >> wiki, forums and website to catch any users we might have missed. >> >> -Rob >> >> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Pedro. >>> >> >
