On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andrea Pescetti <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not sure what you mean by time is running out. Even if release >>>>>> date approaches there is no deadline to talk strategy and a good tool >>>>>> to manage more than publish. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> When OpenOffice 3.4 is released, it is very likely that the press releases >>>>> will contain links to the "main" or "official" Apache OpenOffice channels; >>>>> it wouldn't make sense to change them later and it is obvious that we can >>>>> advertise only channels that are under control of several PPMC members. >>>>> >>>> >>>> But the official ones are already set up. We've already had this >>>> discussion. The accounts are set up and they have already been shared >>>> with the PPMC . We already have several PPMC co-authors on them. >>>> They are already linked to on the website. Announcements have already >>>> gone out to ooo-announce. They are already in the AOO 3.4 >>>> announcement draft. Content is going out on these channels, from the >>>> PPMC, on a daily basis. This is all already done, in preparation for >>>> the AOO 3.4 launch. >>> >>> It would be good if you close those accounts and work with the ones >>> that were already working. Like I said before doesnt make sense to >>> duplicate efforts. >>> >> >> Like your Google+ page that has not had a post since last November? >> What is your excuse there? Google+ has integrated multi-author >> support. You don't need to spend months "investigating" alternative >> tooling. It is already there. > > You are free to investigate and post there as well. The info has been > public since 2 years ago on how to post. there is no need to actually > go through creating new accounts. > >> >> To me it looks like you are merely hoarding. You signed up for that >> account on the exact day that Google enabled business pages on >> Google+. But then you did nothing with it but sit on it. You've made >> zero effort to enable the PPMC to work with these accounts. You >> started zero threads on how best to use the account. You've made zero >> offers to share access with the PPMC. > > > When google plus started there was no way on ad-hoc users to it, now > the Google plus account have 7 managers that can post at any time. >
If it didn't happen on the list it didn't happen. Please show me the thread where you asked for PPMC members to volunteer for that account, and where they responded. -Rob >> >> As I said before, hoarding is a losing strategy at Apache. Those who >> share will see their DNA survive. >> >> -Rob >> >>>> >>>> This isn't about personal control. This is about sharing. Those who >>>> hoard will be passed by and left behind. Those who work through the >>>> process and openly share and enable others with see their initiatives >>>> succeed. It is that simple. You cannot control by withholding. >>>> >>>> If you (or any other PPMC member) would like to be added as a >>>> co-author to the Twitter or Google+ account, please let me know and I >>>> will add you immediately. If you want to be an author on the Facebook >>>> group, talk to Raphael. >>>> >>>>> At that point, everybody, from the PPMC or not, will still be welcome to >>>>> open a channel dedicated to OpenOffice (respecting the trademark policy), >>>>> but these channels would be "secondary" or "unofficial". >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Andrea.
