On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andrea Pescetti <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not sure what you mean by time is running out. Even if release >>>>>>> date approaches there is no deadline to talk strategy and a good tool >>>>>>> to manage more than publish. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> When OpenOffice 3.4 is released, it is very likely that the press >>>>>> releases >>>>>> will contain links to the "main" or "official" Apache OpenOffice >>>>>> channels; >>>>>> it wouldn't make sense to change them later and it is obvious that we can >>>>>> advertise only channels that are under control of several PPMC members. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But the official ones are already set up. We've already had this >>>>> discussion. The accounts are set up and they have already been shared >>>>> with the PPMC . We already have several PPMC co-authors on them. >>>>> They are already linked to on the website. Announcements have already >>>>> gone out to ooo-announce. They are already in the AOO 3.4 >>>>> announcement draft. Content is going out on these channels, from the >>>>> PPMC, on a daily basis. This is all already done, in preparation for >>>>> the AOO 3.4 launch. >>>> >>>> It would be good if you close those accounts and work with the ones >>>> that were already working. Like I said before doesnt make sense to >>>> duplicate efforts. >>>> >>> >>> Like your Google+ page that has not had a post since last November? >>> What is your excuse there? Google+ has integrated multi-author >>> support. You don't need to spend months "investigating" alternative >>> tooling. It is already there. >> >> You are free to investigate and post there as well. The info has been >> public since 2 years ago on how to post. there is no need to actually >> go through creating new accounts. >> >>> >>> To me it looks like you are merely hoarding. You signed up for that >>> account on the exact day that Google enabled business pages on >>> Google+. But then you did nothing with it but sit on it. You've made >>> zero effort to enable the PPMC to work with these accounts. You >>> started zero threads on how best to use the account. You've made zero >>> offers to share access with the PPMC. >> >> >> When google plus started there was no way on ad-hoc users to it, now >> the Google plus account have 7 managers that can post at any time. >> > > If it didn't happen on the list it didn't happen. Please show me the > thread where you asked for PPMC members to volunteer for that > account, and where they responded.
Please show me the thread where PPMC members asked to help for those accounts. > > -Rob > >>> >>> As I said before, hoarding is a losing strategy at Apache. Those who >>> share will see their DNA survive. >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>>>> >>>>> This isn't about personal control. This is about sharing. Those who >>>>> hoard will be passed by and left behind. Those who work through the >>>>> process and openly share and enable others with see their initiatives >>>>> succeed. It is that simple. You cannot control by withholding. >>>>> >>>>> If you (or any other PPMC member) would like to be added as a >>>>> co-author to the Twitter or Google+ account, please let me know and I >>>>> will add you immediately. If you want to be an author on the Facebook >>>>> group, talk to Raphael. >>>>> >>>>>> At that point, everybody, from the PPMC or not, will still be welcome to >>>>>> open a channel dedicated to OpenOffice (respecting the trademark policy), >>>>>> but these channels would be "secondary" or "unofficial". >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Andrea.
