On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:44:28 -0400
Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:37 PM, drew <d...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 09:30 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Jihui Choi wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> When you install it you agreed to open doc files in OpenOffice
> >> >>>
> >> >> Basically installing AOO doesn't mean we agreed to open MS office
> >> >> formats in AOO.
> >> >> And it's supposed there's an option page to choose whether we'll open
> >> >> them in AOO or not.
> >> >> But I couldn't find any similar option. I installed AOO 3.4 twice to
> >> >> check this on Windows 7 32bit.
> >> >> It's very strange and shame. It should be checked and fixed.
> >> >
> >> > I am unsure from your statement Choi (is it proper to use the second 
> >> > name in conversation?) whether you were confirming the user's report.
> >> >
> >> > If what the reporter says is true then this needs to be a bugzilla and 
> >> > possible blocker for 3.4.1. How is this being tested on Windows? And is 
> >> > the result that installing AOO 3.4 on it does in fact cause (or even has 
> >> > as a default) the shifting of MS Office document types to be opened with 
> >> > AOO instead of MS Office. If MS Office is present then this must not be 
> >> > the the default option.
> >> >
> >> > The check must not be implicit to the user who just clicks continue and 
> >> > accept buttons through the WIndows installation process. Users must 
> >> > explicitly choose to have AOO override MS Office for MS Office documents.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Making the opposite default could be wrong as well.  For example, the
> >> user could have had one of those 30-day trial versions of MS Office
> >> that are commonly bundled with new PC's.  The trial expires and they
> >> install AOO.  If we don't default to taking the file extensions, then
> >> the user is left in a tough position.
> >>
> >> Ideally we'd have a dialog the user could reach both in the install
> >> and in the product where they could see what app currently owns each
> >> file extension and then switch the owner.  So they could assign an
> >> extension to AOO, but also change their mind and set it back to MS
> >> Office if they wanted.
> >
> > Well, I admit that I didn't do it this last time - but there has been an
> > option for this, for a long time. The person running the installer has
> > to choose custom install to see it is all - or did this change along the
> > way.
> >
> > Making an intelligent choice for default behavior is important and needs
> > to be, the desire being to server most users best by limiting the amount
> > of interaction required to perform the installation.
> >
> > It is my feeling, given the small of number of (small but also of a
> > frequency over time) individuals commenting in the negative on this
> > choice, that for the majority it is the correct choice.
> >
> 
> Good point.  2.7 million downloads and a handful of complaints.
> Certainly there are more complaints unreported, but this is still very
> small percentage wise.
> 
> > It also seems to me that in most of the cases where a person did contact
> > one of our support channels regarding the changes that a fairly quick
> > response about file associations did the trick.
> >
> > I'm sure however that a better way of informing the user of the option
> > could be found, as most things can be improved. Though it seems to me
> > that in the particular this has not a big issue for most Windows users.
> >
> 
> Do we have any FAQ's for AOO 3.4?   Do we have a sense of what the
> common questions are at this point, based on the forums and ooo-users?
>  Putting such FAQ's in a prominent place would help.
> 

Three immediate subjects for such an FAQ come to mind:
1) The file associations just discussed
2) When Java is needed for Windows it should be 32bit and version 1.6
3) that there is currently no 64 bit AOO for Windows

-- 
Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie>

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