----- Original Message ----- > From: Dave Fisher <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:08 PM > Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) > > I think that it is a good moment to remind the community that the PPMC > considers > a contributor's merit in the project before electing the individual into the > Committer and/or PPMC role. One of the jobs of PPMC members is to identify > contributors who are good candidates based on the merit of their > contributions. > These can be anywhere in the project that is visible to the PPMC and that > includes the User Forums.
The thing is, there's no organizational requirement that (P)PMC members be offered committership as well- it just normally works out that way. > > Regards, > Dave > > On Jul 17, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > >> Exactly so Dennis, and here is the community documentation which spells >> out how a committer can "more easily make changes without having to go >> through the patch submission process" for the website: >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html >> >> >> "...Making updates to the Apache OpenOffice project's websites is > simple. >> It's even easy >> for non-committers (new contributors - like you) to create >> a patch to request that >> pages are updated by the project community...." >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected]; 'Joe Schaefer' > <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:17 PM >>> Subject: RE: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) >>> >>> T he following text is boilerplate on the model that is sent to all who > are >>> invited to be committers on AOOi. It is derived from a model document > that is >>> to be found on the Apache site: >>> >>> Hello <invitee>, >>> >>> The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) >>> hereby offers you committer rights to the project ... . >>> >>> Being a committer enables you to more easily make changes without >>> needing to go through the patch submission process. This applies >>> not only to the code base but other project areas, such as the >>> web sites. ... >>> >>> Being a committer does not require you to participate any more >>> than you already do. It does tend to make one even more > committed. >>> You will probably find that you spend more time here. >>> >>> That same text was in the invitation that Hagar received from the PPMC > on >>> 2012-03-04. >>> >>> This is my sole contribution to this thread. I am disappointed that > Hagar left >>> the PPMC. >>> >>> - Dennis >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 14:42 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>> From: Rory O'Farrell <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Cc: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:29 PM >>>> Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack > of) >>>> >>>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:20:02 -0700 (PDT) >>>> Joe Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If Hagar has a debilitating illness that prevents him from >>>>> acquiring the requisite skills, let me apologize for asking >>>>> him to try to do something a normal person on this mailing >>>>> list can accomplish for themselves. >>>>> >>>>> That's the best you're going to get Larry. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> > From: Larry Gusaas <[email protected]> >>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>> > Cc: >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:14 PM >>>>> > Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun > (or lack >>> of) >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On 2012-07-17 3:04 PM Rob Weir wrote: >>>>> >> Please, everyone. Let's not pile on this > thread with >>> more >>>> name >>>>> >> calling, etc., in the heat of the moment. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Let's set it aside and see tomorrow if there is > anything >>> more >>>> that >>>>> >> should be said. We accomplish nothing with > rapid-fire, >>> emotional >>>>> >> responses. >>>>> > >>>>> > I will quit responding when Hagar gets the apology he > deserves. >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > _________________________________ >>>>> > >>>>> > Larry I. Gusaas >>>>> > Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada >>>>> > Website: http://larry-gusaas.com >>>>> > "An artist is never ahead of his time but most > people are >>> far >>>> behind >>>>> > theirs." - Edgard Varese >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> I suggest the other Mentors should _urgently review_ this thread > and >>> consider >>>> what behaviour is expected from a mentor. >>>> >>>> It is unfair to require a volunteer to change his level of > committment, or >>> to >>> >>> Relax- nobody is *requiring* anything of anyone. This is about > expected and >>> model behavior. For reasons that escape me at this point, Hagar was > made a >>> committer on this project, and that comes with certain expectations. >>> Additionally >>> there are expectations on how *anyone* subscribed to this mailing list > SHOULD >>> apply >>> community documentation as it pertains to website maintenance. That is > of no >>> surprise >>> to anyone either. >>> >>>> suggest that he might need (I quote) "a debilitating illness > that >>> prevents >>>> him from acquiring the requisite skills." If he has not the > time or >>> the >>>> inclination to extend his role, that is sufficient. >>> >>> It was, at the end of the day, a *challenge* to either accept or pass > on. >>> Expect >>> there to be more of them when others approach this mailing list with > bug reports >>> about web pages, because we want people to use the tools provided by > the org to >>> fix those bugs themselves. Will everyone comply? Of course not. This > is just >>> the first example of that- pity it's coming from a committer. >>> >
